Originally posted by RealityWarper
I didn't read and I don't care.I will not read any of your walls of texts.
Are you trying to neociate with me Superman's feats when none of them shows him fighting at Super-speed ? Really ?
If you have nothing to add to this thread than your personal rant against me and NO argument, because that's what you do since the beginning at trying to start a flame war and going off-topic, you should better leave.
So far, you posted NO FEATS of Superman fighting at super-speed.
So, not going to read it because you're trolling.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I agree. Only anime and manga characters have combat speed. Our reality has been warped
The problem is that you are using some "Karate Kid The Movie" logic and you fiercely believe that tasks unrelated to combat processed at high speed automatically translate to combat speed when it's never the case nor in fiction, nor in real life.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂How many bullets? I count 15.
Slightly below Flash I think.
Sill.
That's not punches.
Irrelevant to close-quarters combat speeds.
Superman's showings in combat are a proof of this.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
The problem is that you are using some "Karate Kid The Movie" logic and you fiercely believe that tasks unrelated to combat processed at high speed automatically translate to combat speed when it's never the case nor in fiction, nor in real life.Sill.
That's not punches.
Irrelevant to close-quarters combat speeds.
Superman's showings in combat are a proof of this.
The problem is that you are not using any logic at all
Originally posted by SquallX
Jesus you're dense. It's ****ing called story ****ing progression. It's the same reason ****ing Galactus doesn't just blow up the Earth.Or Darkseid doesn't just Omega everyone from his throne on Apokolips.
Or Flash doesn't blitz everyone at Femto second speed
Once more, it's ****ing story progression.
Despite your claims, you're nobody at DC nor any authority on the matter. The fact remains, Superman gets treated like a feeb more times than I can count. In those showings and VASTLY more... He losses the first and second encounter and wins at the end. However, his win at the end doesn't make him 1-0... HE LOST the previous encounter by getting treated like a weak feeb. So he's actually 1-1... Superman fans like to pretend the first loss didn't happen. We know it did.
Apparently people weren't listening. Great.
As per the rules of the forum combat/reaction speed is a thing we take in to account. Superman has impressive combat/reaction speed. Trying to say he doesn't is, imo, either due to being misinformed, or trying to wilfully mislead people.
Now, move on, people. Next person to make a personal jab gets warned.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Despite your claims, you're nobody at DC nor any authority on the matter. The fact remains, Superman gets treated like a feeb more times than I can count. In those showings and VASTLY more... He losses the first and second encounter and wins at the end. However, his win at the end doesn't make him 1-0... HE LOST the previous encounter by getting treated like a weak feeb. So he's actually 1-1... Superman fans like to pretend the first loss didn't happen. We know it did.
It's a troupe that's been used since the beginning of time, main character losing to the bad guys, either he suddenly gains a boost, or somehow survives only to come back stronger and beat the bad guys. And the story somehow makes the bad guys never training and sometimes forgets his powers at the last second.
Not once did i claimed Superman is never beaten in a fight.
Look at his fight against Imperiex Prime. Prime came out and Big Bang the shit out of DD and killed him, yet he forgot to do the same thing to Superman.
Then after Clark was down and out, the chick gaved him a temporary power up and he was able to beat Prime.
My point has and will always be, in a setting where the plot is there to help the main character, he will always win, no matter what.
Given Superman's [Flash-tier] perception/reaction/travel speed, it's laughable to think he couldn't deliver 300 punches within a second. Hell, he could deliver several times more if he were going all out... But that's neither here or there.
As for carver asking for scans of Clark doing so: ru f*cking serious? Who in the holy christ do you think he's ever had to punch that many times in that short of a timeframe? There aren't many(if any) beings this side of abstract who could endure an onslaught like that, and Clark certainly doesn't go around trying to kill every one of his rogues in a single panel. srsly
Originally posted by Galan007Contrary, he's pretty much always holding back, and staying to the level of his enemies, and his villains rely on it.
Given Superman's [Flash-tier] perception/reaction/travel speed, it's laughable to think he couldn't deliver 300 punches within a second. Hell, I'd wager that he could deliver several times more if he were going all out... But that's neither here or there.As for carver asking for scans of Clark doing so: ru f*cking serious? Who in the holy christ do you think he's ever had to punch that many times in that short of a timeframe? There aren't many(if any) beings this side of abstract who could endure an onslaught like that, and Clark certainly doesn't go around trying to kill every one of his rogues in a single panel. srsly
Originally posted by Galan007It's StupidityWarping - a troll from comicvine, ignore him.
Given Superman's [Flash-tier] perception/reaction/travel speed, it's laughable to think he couldn't deliver 300 punches within a second. Hell, he could deliver several times more if he were going all out... But that's neither here or there.As for carver asking for scans of Clark doing so: ru f*cking serious? Who in the holy christ do you think he's ever had to punch that many times in that short of a timeframe? There aren't many(if any) beings this side of abstract who could endure an onslaught like that, and Clark certainly doesn't go around trying to kill every one of his rogues in a single panel. srsly
You make a very good point that nobody really gets - Flash can speedblitz the shit out of people because he's human-level strength. In order to reach high-level strength, there needs to be a point made about it with relativity. With Superman? He punches at that level at normal speed. The faster he goes, the more implausible it is that an opponent can take 10s of high-speed Superman punches in a fraction of time - there aren't many who can do that. So he doesn't.
Originally posted by JuntaiAnd that's after he said Mongul is Darkseid level, lol.
Notice how even new 52 Superman mentioned he had to hold back to not kill Mongul in a punch?
I take both statements with a grain of salt, but either way...
Originally posted by Galan007
Given Superman's [Flash-tier] perception/reaction/travel speed, it's laughable to think he couldn't deliver 300 punches within a second. Hell, he could deliver several times more if he were going all out... But that's neither here or there.As for carver asking for scans of Clark doing so: ru f*cking serious? Who in the holy christ do you think he's ever had to punch that many times in that short of a timeframe? There aren't many(if any) beings this side of abstract who could endure an onslaught like that, and Clark certainly doesn't go around trying to kill every one of his rogues in a single panel. srsly
We don't give people fts Galan. It just doesn't work like that here. That is the reason I'm asking for evidence.
