If God created everything who created God?

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MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

But mass is a requirement of matter?

A precursor?

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or requisite?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

All matter is composed of fermions, and all discovered fermions have mass. However, there are bosons (not matter) with mass as well.

MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

So, basically, all particles are energetic and have mass, but matter is not the sum of all mass, right?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by MF DELPH
So, basically, all particles are energetic and have mass,

All particles have energy because if they didn't have energy we wouldn't be able to detect them.

But they don't all have mass. The photon, gluon and graviton are massless, but they also travel at light-speed—which particles with mass can't do.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
but matter is not the sum of all mass, right?

Right.

MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

Ok, so:

"All matter consists of particles with mass and energy, but not all particles have mass, so not all particles are matter."

would be a true statement, no?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

The W-, Z- and Higgs boson do not make up matter, but they have mass.

So while each statement is true, the third cannot be inferred from the previous two.

MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

Ok, so it's more along the lines of :

"All matter consists of particles with mass and energy, but not all particles have mass, and not all particles with mass are matter."

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Yes.

MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

All particles have energy, however.

Correct?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Yes.

MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

Can energy become matter?

Q99 Senior Member
Originally posted by MF DELPH
Can energy become matter?

Yep. And the converse.

That's why when you break matter, energy comes out.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Can energy become matter?

That depends on what you mean with "become." When matter is created the energy is stored in the particle's mass, hence E = mc².

MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

I mean can an energetic reaction or event result in the formation of particles where no particles were present prior to said event?

Bentley Seitei
Originally posted by MF DELPH
I mean can an energetic reaction or event result in the formation of particles where no particles were present prior to said event?

Well, if an energetic reaction happened before there were any particles, that energetic reaction consisted of non-particles?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by MF DELPH
I mean can an energetic reaction or event result in the formation of particles where no particles were present prior to said event?

You can't have energy without particles.

Originally posted by Astner
Energy is defined as the relative state of particles;
MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

Ok. So energy can not be created or destroyed, only transferred and converted from one form to another. Energy also equals mass. By our current model, all matter requires mass. All particles do not require mass, but all particles do require energy. Matter is a particle with mass.

If energy can not be created or destroyed, only converted, and all particles require energy, and you can't have energy without particles, are particles energy?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Energy also equals mass.

Mass is a form of energy.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
are particles energy?
Originally posted by Astner
Energy is defined as the relative state of particles;
MF DELPH aka Rakim Illa

So yes.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by MF DELPH
So yes.

No. Energy is carried by particles.