Originally posted by The Ellimist
Wow, that's a pretty brilliant argument. I'm a believer now. 👆
It was you who first made the claim that pink unicorn creating the universe is a logical equivalent to God creating the universe, so.... I am sure you'll extrapolate on your argument in detail further on.
Good luck 👆
Originally posted by Stigma
I didn't intend to make one, though.It was you who first made the claim that pink unicorn creating the universe is a logical equivalent to God creating the universe, so.... I am sure you'll extrapolate on your argument in detail further on.
Good luck 👆
mmm So you can defend the veracity of the original statement with a thumbs up, but if I were to say the same thing with unicorn substituted in, suddenly I need elaboration?
Of course, what can I expect from you?
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Untrue. If the Unicorn created the universe, its existence is necessary as the "first mover" for the same reason God's would be.
And no classical- or personal theist would argue that the necessity of God arises from the supposition that he's first cause, but rather a point that follows from how he's defined.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
mmm So you can defend the veracity of the original statement with a thumbs up, but if I were to say the same thing with unicorn substituted in, suddenly I need elaboration?
You were the one who contested Emperor's point and provided, although in general terms, your own point... so why not present your argument in detail.
Feel free to elaborate indeed. You're among friends here 👆
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not if the invisible pink unicorn created the universe. This "first cause" argument only makes remote sense if we're talking in the vaguest deistic sense, but EmperorDMB is talking about the Judeo-Christian God.
Why bother engaging with arguments if youre not willing to engage with the argument?
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not if the invisible pink unicorn created the universe. This "first cause" argument only makes remote sense if we're talking in the vaguest deistic sense, but EmperorDMB is talking about the Judeo-Christian God.
But no, it appears you're one of the ******* atheists who can't healthily coexist with religious people and thinks we're all retarded scum, so have a nice day or a bad day, I really couldn't give a shit. I don't really care to discuss this with you of all people. Despite all your posturing, trying to appear fair minded, trying to establish yourself as some gift to the world with your fancy ivy-league education or some shit, you spend your time on the internet trolling people, and its pathetic.
And you'll probably quote this, and type out several paragraphs trying to spin some logic to provide a justification for your trolling that makes you appear a reasonable individual that's just looking for discussion, or perhaps try and twist it around on me with some "we are the same" bullshit, but it's pretty obvious to anyone with a modicum of observational ability that most of the shit you do is to bait people.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Not if the invisible pink unicorn created the universe. This "first cause" argument only makes remote sense if we're talking in the vaguest deistic sense, but EmperorDMB is talking about the Judeo-Christian God.
I feel like you need to get your facts straight. The unicorn is blue, with golden eyebrows. His name is Chester, but you can totally just call him "Chest" if you want.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm not saying the "first cause argument" proves the Judeo-Christian God, I have other reasons for that, merely that it proves a higher power. And it's not like I was even trying to assert something about a higher power, merely that being the cause of deterministic principal excluding you from deterministic principal isn't a fallacy.But no, it appears you're one of the ******* atheists who can't healthily coexist with religious people and thinks we're all retarded scum, so have a nice day or a bad day, I really couldn't give a shit. I don't really care to discuss this with you of all people. Despite all your posturing, trying to appear fair minded, trying to establish yourself as some gift to the world with your fancy ivy-league education or some shit, you spend your time on the internet trolling people, and its pathetic.
And you'll probably quote this, and type out several paragraphs trying to spin some logic to provide a justification for your trolling that makes you appear a reasonable individual that's just looking for discussion, or perhaps try and twist it around on me with some "we are the same" bullshit, but it's pretty obvious to anyone with a modicum of observational ability that most of the shit you do is to bait people.
lol, and you wonder why people think you have anger issues. I'm so sorry that I dared disagree with you on something.
Spoiler:
Don't you whine about political correctness a lot? I'm so sorry I was politically incorrect towards your incestuous Jesus. I forgot that you only think political correctness is bad when a minority you don't like is doing it.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Chester is not a f*cking unicorn you ignorant unbeliever, get your facts straight.
Chester just has many avatars.
I certainly know when I played the Chester the Cheetah game for SNES I felt a tiny sliver of divinity every time. The game was called "Too Cool to Fool" and he really WAS too cool to fool.
Originally posted by Astner
There's no reason to raise a point if you're not willing to defend it.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It's not that he disagreed with me, it's that he was being an *******.
Oh, go cry. The tone of my reply was infinitely friendlier than half of your own replies to far more trivial issues about Star Wars; your hatred of individuals like Aubere has spawned you to go on rather comical rants of hostility that make my slight, barely perceptible snark seem like Mr. Rodgers in comparison.
But what makes you an even more pathetic person, to be honest - as I've come to conclude, is how hilariously your obsession with politeness when people address you contradicts not only the way you treat others you don't like (Aubere, SW_Legend, etc.), but also your pathetic political "crusade" against political correctness, where you go on incoherent rants about how awful social justice warriors are. Remember that time you went on a hate spree against Jmang for telling you not to use "an hero" because it was mocking a real life suicide? You mocked and belittled him with a disturbing fervor - so, to make it clear, you think me showing some smugness at your stupidity is worse than making fun of someone who committed suicide. And what's worse, you don't even have the guts to address me face to face, always dodging out of debating me one vs. one and instead doing these weird addresses in the third person.
Are your double standards and hypocrisies the result of stupidity or a lack of personal integrity? While you're not necessarily a genius, you're probably intelligent enough to figure out these double standards if you wanted to, which leads me to think that you're just a whiny, self centered little sh*t who can't figure out how to conduct himself in a society without creating twenty different special entitlements for himself for being the mighty EmperorDMB. Hopefully at some point you get a wakeup call and stop being a little sh*t, because if you earned a reputation like you have on KMC in a real job, you wouldn't last very long. 👆
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Oh, go cry. The tone of my reply was infinitely friendlier than half of your own replies to far more trivial issues about Star Wars; your hatred of individuals like Aubere has spawned you to go on rather comical rants of hostility that make my slight, barely perceptible snark seem like Mr. Rodgers in comparison.But what makes you an even more pathetic person, to be honest - as I've come to conclude, is how hilariously your obsession with politeness when people address you contradicts not only the way you treat others you don't like (Aubere, SW_Legend, etc.), but also your pathetic political "crusade" against political correctness, where you go on incoherent rants about how awful social justice warriors are. Remember that time you went on a hate spree against Jmang for telling you not to use "an hero" because it was mocking a real life suicide? You mocked and belittled him with a disturbing fervor - so, to make it clear, you think me showing some smugness at your stupidity is worse than making fun of someone who committed suicide. And what's worse, you don't even have the guts to address me face to face, always dodging out of debating me one vs. one and instead doing these weird addresses in the third person.
Are your double standards and hypocrisies the result of stupidity or a lack of personal integrity? While you're not necessarily a genius, you're probably intelligent enough to figure out these double standards if you wanted to, which leads me to think that you're just a whiny, self centered little sh*t who can't figure out how to conduct himself in a society without creating twenty different special entitlements for himself for being the mighty EmperorDMB. Hopefully at some point you get a wakeup call and stop being a little sh*t, because if you earned a reputation like you have on KMC in a real job, you wouldn't last very long. 👆
What's depressing is that you perceive me as being so plagued with these problems, and instead of trying to help you call me a little shit, try to make me feel terrible about who I am etc. It's depressing and a little disturbing to see that this is how we sometimes choose to deal with other people's problems. I legitimately hope you can reach a point in your life where you can validate yourself without the need to put yourself over people on a ****ing internet forum