OWAW Superman vs Odin...

Started by quanchi11220 pages

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Pretty much.

Not to mention Thanos would kick the christ out of Seth no matter how many galaxies he destroyed anyway. You can't judge a book by how much space it takes up next to your blu ray collection. Especially when that book has like 200 words in it with over 400 pages (****ing Jimmy Page).

The attempts to just disregard them however are something worth noting.

This is why I don't take posters seriously like abhi or anyone who puts together giant posts exaggerating collateral damage type feats because no matter how often they pull this shit out of their ass it doesn't change how they stack up against their peers.

Originally posted by One Big Mob

The attempts to just disregard them however are something worth noting.
I haven't disregarded anything. I've been telling you exactly why those feats are exagerated. They were all at the World tree.

It's no different than the 4th World scan I posted, and suggesting universal/multiversal level of power.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So canon feats don't count to juntai. They expired. Good to know and the other more recent feats just don't make any sense so let's wipe them off the map too.
Never suggested that.

Originally posted by Juntai
Never suggested that.
Well, if they are canon you can't imply they don't count. You also place too high of an emphasis on collateral damage. Odin is still portrayed on average like he always has been in relation to the characters in marvel.

Originally posted by Juntai
Or maybe battling Seth damn near on top of the world tree exagerated people's idea of his power because of the residual effects.

Like Seth setting the tree on fire.

Or Odin severing Heven from the rest of the 9 by way of World Tree.

These feats have more to do with where than application of power.

Beyond that, he exists somewhere below Galactus, but not too far, and above Thanos, but not too far.

No galaxy buster anymore. As I said in my earlier post.

Post a scan that says those effects came from hitting the World Tree. Because that's more of a universal ending type of consequence than destroying dead galaxies.

What did he do after he seperated from the place that allowed him to do it? Still manipulate it?

Well, if your argument is that he's not a galaxy buster anymore because the World Tree supplied all the power, then he was never a galaxy buster (ignoring Infinity, and Surtur). You're literally talking about his only galaxy destroying fight. So when did he lose this ability?

And when did he get less powerful exactly?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well, if they are canon you can't imply they don't count. You also place too high of an emphasis on collateral damage. Odin is still portrayed on average like he always has been in relation to the characters in marvel.
I wasn't the one that started that. I simply said he wasn't galaxy busting universe shaking level. And he's not.

Celey got on me about it, and posted 2 more feats from at the World Tree, just like his Galaxy busting one.

The hard truth is that he's a little above Thanos, and a little below Galactus if he has prep.

Originally posted by Juntai
I haven't disregarded anything. I've been telling you exactly why those feats are exagerated. They were all at the World tree.

It's no different than the 4th World scan I posted, and suggesting universal/multiversal level of power.

You're trying to say it doesn't count because the worldtree is like a different company with a different take on their Gods, and because Odin weaker than in the past... even though the issue was written recently. Also Odin and Seth were secretly attacking the World Tree the whole time.

Of which you've posted no proof for all the bases you tried to cover.

There's a Thor annual where Enchantress attacks the World Tree that you can at least try to use. Not ****ing New Gods 😂

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Post a scan that says those effects came from hitting the World Tree. Because that's more of a universal ending type of consequence than destroying dead galaxies.

What did he do after he seperated from the place that allowed him to do it? Still manipulate it?

Well, if your argument is that he's not a galaxy buster [b]anymore because the World Tree supplied all the power, then he was never a galaxy buster (ignoring Infinity, and Surtur). You're literally talking about his only galaxy destroying fight. So when did he lose this ability?

And when did he get less powerful exactly? [/B]

That's not my agument. My argument is that he isn't at all. Not that the tree supplied the power.

That the location in a higher dimension next to the physical representation of reality was why. It was happening because of proximity to the world tree. The blasts and shaking in Asgard at the world tree as Seth was there to uproot it when Odin appeared caused destruction everywhere, that could be seen or felt from everywhere.

Just like setting the tree on fire ignited all the realms. That could be seen or felt from everywhere.

Just like being at the tree allowed him to sever a realm.

These aren't multiverse/galaxy/omniverse or anything feats.

They're about the location.

Just like being in the 4th world.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Post a scan that says those effects came from hitting the World Tree. Because that's more of a universal ending type of consequence than destroying dead galaxies.

What did he do after he seperated from the place that allowed him to do it? Still manipulate it?

Well, if your argument is that he's not a galaxy buster [b]anymore because the World Tree supplied all the power, then he was never a galaxy buster (ignoring Infinity, and Surtur). You're literally talking about his only galaxy destroying fight. So when did he lose this ability?

And when did he get less powerful exactly? [/B]


Superman and Orion defeated Sivaa who was going to destroy multiverse too.

Guess they are just that powerful.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman and Orion defeated Sivaa who was going to destroy multiverse too.

Guess they are just that powerful.

I don't even fathom how that factors into anything I said, but sure.

Originally posted by Juntai
That's not my agument. My argument is that he isn't at all. Not that the tree supplied the power.

That the location in a higher dimension next to the physical representation of reality was why. It was happening because of proximity to the world tree. The blasts and shaking in Asgard at the world tree as Seth was there to uproot it when Odin appeared caused destruction everywhere, that could be seen or felt from everywhere.

Just like setting the tree on fire ignited all the realms. That could be seen or felt from everywhere.

Just like being at the tree allowed him to sever a realm.

These aren't multiverse/galaxy/omniverse or anything feats.

They're about the location.

Just like being in the 4th world.

Scans that apply this to attacking the World Tree? Scans showing the Wt attacked whenever Seth blasted Odin?

Originally posted by Juntai
I wasn't the one that started that. I simply said he wasn't galaxy busting universe shaking level. And he's not.

Celey got on me about it, and posted 2 more feats from at the World Tree, just like his Galaxy busting one.

The hard truth is that he's a little above Thanos, and a little below Galactus if he has prep.

Yes, he is. The same feats are canon not that it matters since I don't believe feats of power matter in regards to how these characters compare to one another.

He isn't above Thanos at all. He is below Galactus but then again he's always been below him. Galactus is a big deal. Superman is still a peer to Orion, Doomsday, etc. he doesn't operate on the level near Odin but even in OWAW he still has the magical weakness despite the sundip increase in power unless proven otherwise.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman and Orion defeated Sivaa who was going to destroy multiverse too.

Guess they are just that powerful.

What is this supposed to address ?

Originally posted by One Big Mob

Scans that apply this to attacking the World Tree? Scans showing the Wt attacked whenever Seth blasted Odin?
Clearly in several stories the world tree is the link to this level of destruction. And absent the tree, these feats don't exist.

You need to prove it isn't the case.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he is. The same feats are canon not that it matters since I don't believe feats of power matter in regards to how these characters compare to one another.

He isn't above Thanos at all. He is below Galactus but then again he's always been below him. Galactus is a big deal. Superman is still a peer to Orion, Doomsday, etc. he doesn't operate on the level near Odin but even in OWAW he still has the magical weakness despite the sundip increase in power unless proven otherwise.

No., He only had said feat because of proximity to the world tree.
Like Superman and Orion in the 4th World.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
I don't even fathom how that factors into anything I said, but sure.

Scans that apply this to attacking the World Tree? Scans showing the Wt attacked whenever Seth blasted Odin?

Juntai just committed a debating cardinal sin. He doesn't think he needs to prove his theory but that you need to disprove it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Juntai just committed a debating cardinal sin. He doesn't think he needs to prove his theory but that you need to disprove it.
False. Several showings at the World tree back my claim.

Someone else would need to prove to separate these stories and concepts.

Originally posted by Juntai
False. Several showings at the World tree back my claim.

Someone else would need to prove to separate these stories and concepts.

Then back your claim with scans. Saying he needs to disprove your theory when you haven't proven it is a cardinal debating sin.

Originally posted by Juntai
No., He only had said feat because of proximity to the world tree.
Like Superman and Orion in the 4th World.
Then prove it.

It's already been proven. It's in the pudding.

Blasts shaking reality while existing in all 9 realms at the World Tree vs Seth.
Sutur sets all the 9 realms on Fire while at the World tree.
Odin able to sever a 'universe' from the 9, while at the world tree.

While away from the world tree, he can't put Thanos down, and has to prep just to run out of gas against Galactus after a headbutt. And in general has no other feats comparable to those while at the World Tree.

Seth and Odin shooting beams that will destroy galaxies and shake the universe!

Thor then shows up and casual slaps one of these beams away with his hammer.
Then Loki blasts Seth as hard as Odin was doing. Maybe harder. He got mad after that nearly downed him.
lol.

I bet they're galaxy busting level too.