Can Bernie Sanders really make college free?

Started by Darth Abonis6 pages

Can Bernie Sanders really make college free?

It seems to good to be true, but I would love it if Bernie could do it.

Doubtful

When have politicians ever not gone through with something they promised?

Politically? Not a chance. This is a 'must go through congress' thing and not only are the Republicans going to be against it, and some moderate democrats would likely have misgivings. Even if the Democrats managed to reach a supermajority, it would be a big question if it could get through.

In actual, 'can we do this?' capability? Yes, it's definitely possible, other large nations are talking about it.

Living in a country where university education is free, yes, it's definitely possible.

Re: Can Bernie Sanders really make college free?

Originally posted by Darth Abonis
It seems to good to be true, but I would love it if Bernie could do it.

It could happen.

What could be tricky though is if there are long standing contracts for pay/benefits etc. There would have to be alot of control in cost and that would certainly ruffle alot of professots/admins.

There might be changes to entrance requirements making them a bit tougher to get into said schools or waiting lists.

The best investments to growing the economy long term is made in education.

Re: Can Bernie Sanders really make college free?

Originally posted by Darth Abonis
It seems to good to be true, but I would love it if Bernie could do it.
Can he do it possibly.

It's hard to say. Like people said there is going to be a lot of opposition to it.

I'm just hoping if he gets elected that at the very least he get enough support to lower the cost of tuition to something manageable. If we could reduce the average cost of Colleges by 50% that would be amazing.

Although private schools will probably be a lot tougher to get down tuition costs.

Re: Re: Can Bernie Sanders really make college free?

Originally posted by Newjak
Can he do it possibly.

It's hard to say. Like people said there is going to be a lot of opposition to it.

I'm just hoping if he gets elected that at the very least he get enough support to lower the cost of tuition to something manageable. If we could reduce the average cost of Colleges by 50% that would be amazing.

Although private schools will probably be a lot tougher to get down tuition costs.

One of the reasons costs climbed so rapidly for education was the govt response to helping provide loans in the first place.

Unless the govt wants to step in and specifically control costs with pay/benefits etc it will be an excercise in futility.

Pretty good article talking about the cost:

http://www.studentdebtrelief.us/news/rising-tuition-costs-and-the-history-of-student-loans/

Realistically the big opposition will be in the form of greed. Blows my mind to think we couldn't possibly take money out of our defense budget to help kids higher education.

Here is a zero tution college:

http://www.cofo.edu/

Originally posted by Bardock42
Living in a country where university education is free, yes, it's definitely possible.

Only because your country is pro-socialism, bordering on extreme socialism.

Re: Re: Re: Can Bernie Sanders really make college free?

Originally posted by snowdragon
One of the reasons costs climbed so rapidly for education was the govt response to helping provide loans in the first place.

Unless the govt wants to step in and specifically control costs with pay/benefits etc it will be an excercise in futility.

Pretty good article talking about the cost:

http://www.studentdebtrelief.us/news/rising-tuition-costs-and-the-history-of-student-loans/

Realistically the big opposition will be in the form of greed. Blows my mind to think we couldn't possibly take money out of our defense budget to help kids higher education.

Here is a zero tution college:

http://www.cofo.edu/

True people are greedy but those loans are what allowed a number of people to go to college that otherwise wouldn't be able to.

But I agree wrangling in the costs of college is going to need to be a big deal.

There will be a number of people that will put the nix to almost any talk of shrinking our military. They have too many constituents invested in the military to let down size at all.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Only because your country is pro-socialism, bordering on extreme socialism.

Germany is not bordering on extreme socialism.

I take your point though, Bernie Sanders will have a problem to make college free in the American climate, but it wouldn't be too expensive and beneficial to the country if he could.

Greed will get in the way, I think.

Bernie's my candidate of choice when it comes to social issues. When it comes to fiscal matters, however, he's a bit too idealistic. The US isn't Iceland politically. The resistance he'll face to enact a lot of the initiatives he wants, especially given the likelihood of his only getting a single term if he swings for the fences and misses, makes it unrealistic (sadly) because it means people agreeing on what's in the best interests of the nation. I'm all for single payer healthcare and state funded education though.

If they can do it with out making taxes go up to pay for it. Go ahead. Heck. U.S Colleges are just socialist propaganda brainwashing machines nowadays anyways.

Maybe if they made weed legal we could pay for college for everyone?

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Only because your country is pro-socialism, bordering on extreme socialism.

See this is what's wrong with America right here. Progress can be made, but people like AF believe complacency with our flawed system is "The American Way

It is though humanitarianism has somehow become synonymous with socialism. As though desiring to give people free healthcare and education suddenly translates in a dictator esque plot to take over all of America's private and publicly owned businesses.

Again humanitarianism (such as healthcare and education) and Stalinist socialism are not the same, and willfully ignorant Americans who believe they are, such as AF, are the ones ruining our country.

Originally posted by Surtur
Maybe if they made weed legal we could pay for college for everyone?

But then College kids would still be the ones paying the bill to go to college.

So yes. lets do that.

Maybe we try to make illegal immigrants harvest marijuana? There has to be some way to aim these problems at something useful.

Anything to help bring down the price of weed. A Dime bag should only cost a dime.

And aint they already doing this?

Legalizing marijuana would create jobs, increase tax revenue, and decrease the cost of prosecuting and incarcerating non-violent marijuana users and distributors. In my opinion it's a a net positive.