Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
So work hard and if it doesn't work: socialism is the answer.
At the least, do away with nepotism.
**** legacies, the sons and daughters of "important people" should have to prove themselves just like fresh off the boat immigrants or first of a family college students..
And yet free college still won't equal "success."
Just like hard work doesn't equate to "success."
I know from my experiences with Vietnamese in my family they have a strong family and community. They tend to work together to achieve goals and also have very serious expectations from their children. They succeed despite their difficulties and they sacrifice to achieve their results as both a family and community.
Free colleges will most certainly raise the requirements to enter said schools and will more then likely decrease staff pay. Go for it, lets just not hear whining when folks don't like the specific outcome.
I was going to post an argument about how stupid it is to think that poor people are not disadvantage while also stating that it is rather obvious that hard work really does pay off.
It is not black or white (no pun intended). A poor person really can make a difference. They can get good grades. They go through college and get a kickass job. Comics like the one Adam Poe posted lends itself to the idea that poor people are helpless and can't do anything to improve their position. That's rather insulting to people like me who grew up ridiculously poor but worked very hard to get to where I am, today. It's is another insulting liberal idea. "No no, shut up you poor person. You can't make it on your own. You're crippled. The world needs to spoon feed you so you can have a chance at success!"
On the other hand, quite clearly, poor people are disadvantaged. Clearly.
Alright (said in Matthew McConaughey's voice). That should cover that topic.
Now bring on the free tuition. 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemonI've never taken that comic to be feel sorry for poor people.
I was going to post an argument about how stupid it is to think that poor people are not disadvantage while also stating that it is rather obvious that hard work really does pay off.It is not black or white (no pun intended). A poor person really can make a difference. They can get good grades. They go through college and get a kickass job. Comics like the one Adam Poe posted lends itself to the idea that poor people are helpless and can't do anything to improve their position. That's rather insulting to people like me who grew up ridiculously poor but worked very hard to get to where I am, today. It's is another insulting liberal idea. "No no, shut up you poor person. You can't make it on your own. You're crippled. The world needs to spoon feed you so you can have a chance at success!"
On the other hand, quite clearly, poor people are disadvantaged. Clearly.
Alright (said in Matthew McConaughey's voice). That should cover that topic.
Now bring on the free tuition. 🙂
I've always seen basically say the same thing you said. Poor people start off disadvantaged.
But for me the bigger point I've always taken when I've seen it is more a message for the privileged that don't want to recognize those advantages they have. So your self made men type people who like to call poor people lazy while forgetting all the help they've had getting to where they are.
At least that has always been my take on it.