Originally posted by Nibedicus
I'm sure those same placea would prefer unisex bathrooms over confusion over gender confusion on who goes where.
Depends on whether their goal is to be helpful, or to screw over transgender individuals.
There's also moves to make designated restrooms gender neutral harder, by requiring them to install floor-to-ceiling stall doors (meaning, it costs money to change their designation).
And, looking under or over the stalls? That doesn't fly in any restroom.
Originally posted by Q99
Depends on whether their goal is to be helpful, or to screw over transgender individuals.There's also moves to make designated restrooms gender neutral harder, by requiring them to install floor-to-ceiling stall doors (meaning, it costs money to change their designation).
And, looking under or over the stalls? That doesn't fly in any restroom.
What's your point?
It's just..wow, we are legitimately sitting here with a discussion/argument that boils down to expecting a person to use the washroom of the gender they were born with. That is pretty surreal to me that this is a thing where a bill even needs to be passed.
It just gives me a "what is this country coming to" vibe. I swear the pendulum swings both ways it seems. At one point it seemed like you could say or do anything(not literally anything, but you could get away with a lot more). Now the pendulum has swung very far to the opposite side of that. Where we have to take into consideration the feelings of someone whether it is about the bathroom they should use or whether it's about halloween costumes or whatever new thing has cropped up.
At the end of the day if you are a man with a penis and you look 100% female nobody is going to bother you unless they personally know you, and if they personally know you then it doesn't matter what bathroom you use.
Also maybe it is just the way the media portrays it, but it sure seems like there are a hell of a lot more dudes who wanna be women when compared to women who wanna be men. Why is this?
Originally posted by Q99
Depends on whether their goal is to be helpful, or to screw over transgender individuals.There's also moves to make designated restrooms gender neutral harder, by requiring them to install floor-to-ceiling stall doors (meaning, it costs money to change their designation).
And, looking under or over the stalls? That doesn't fly in any restroom.
How in the world could unisex bathrooms screw over anybody?
At least, any one designation. I can see all types of friction over it, from paranoids on the "Evil pervert men in women's room" camp being uncomfortable, to "evil men having "other" at their mercy in mens room" getting riled up over it..
Lets be 100% transparent and call this what it is: people want to protect transgenders from deviant men, and any paranoia over transgenders in the women's room is that they're deviant men gaming the system.
That's the basic logic behind any resistance to unisex bathrooms, in a nutshell. (And believe me, a man is as likely as anyone to follow that logic, so don't only blame women or PC's..)