Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Absence of proof isn't proof friend, and I know you already know that. He does have strength feats though and they are clearly defined. Hulk is every bit as strong as superman, in fact, likely stronger. Look no further than the back and forth fight they had in the Avengers. Thor was PHYSICALLY effecting Hulk time and time again. Whether that be with punches or his hammer. In one instance Thor's hammer through literally sent Hulk flying. In STARK contrast, Kurse treated Thor's hammer as if it was a toothpick and of no consequence. He literally swatted it away as if it was a flea. Shoot we even seen Thor lock up with Hulk and briefly stalemate him. Now, I'm not claiming Thor is as stronger but he's clearly in the ballpark of strength if he could compete with Hulk at almost every turn. Again, we're talking about somebody as strong, or stronger than Clark. Guess what, Kurse treated that same Thor, literally, and I mean literally like a weakling. That is the very definition of extrapolating strength. You're forgetting all of Thor's feats, and Kurse casually owning him at every turn speaks volumes about Kurse's prowess. You're underselling him here.To go further, the crux of the argument doesn't hinge on Zod having his neck snapped. It hinges on Kurse no selling virtually ever one of Thor's attacks. Then when you factor in Thor's track record and feats, and still see Kurse treating him like he did and no selling attacks... it becomes blatantly apparent he's more durable than Zod. In fact, I would say it's a clear advantage for Kurse based on feats. Zod having his neck snapped in the coup de grace that reinforces the point, not the crux of the argument.
The absence of proof means the absence of feats. That puts the burden of proof on you, but that's impossible since you've already noted that those feats are absent. I'm definitely not trying to undersell Kurse. He's a beast, and likely one of the tops in the MCU so far. He just hasn't shown the feats to be considered above a Kyptonian.
Hulk wasn't holding up oil rigs or tackling over skyscrapers. His hits with the HB did make shockwaves, but nowhere near the level of shockwaves Supes and Zod colliding made. Thor also was not shown to be in the same ballpark strength wise. He's strong, but not enough to give Hulk a run in that stat. He won that fight due to significantly greater skill and superior fighting speed.
You're also trying to use A > B > C logic, which isn't valid here. Hulks strength feats don't translate to Thor, and they definitely don't translate to Kurse. That, combined with Kurses lack of feats, is kind of a death sentence when put into a fight with someone who does have feats.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Not much can be shown regarding how tough Kurse is as he was never really hurt in the movie, but as strength goes, the Hulk couldn't stop Mjolnir's forward momentum with his own strength. Kurse swatted Mjolnir away like nothing.They could fly pretty fast, yes. But flight is disabled in this scenario. And Kurse was able to react to a flying Thor AND a flying Mjolnir with his back turned and Zod never showed that any of his bullrushes exceeded Thor's or Mjolnir's flight speed IIRC. Ergo, he would be able to react to said bullrushes by swatting Zod away.
Zod might have shown more showings of durability against human skyscrapers and such as his fight with Kal was very give and take. Best I can remember for Kurse is when he blew up the Asgardian reactor and facetanked the whole explosion like nothing. Kurse has better damage soak tho and feels no pain (as he was skewered by a blade and didn't seem all that bothered by it).
Zod was portrayed as a horrible fighter, tho. Barely and tactics in how he fought. He essentially fought like a wild animal. Kurse fought with smarts. Separating his opponent from his primary weapon (and keeping said weapon away), maintained his advantage by keeping his opponent off balance and ground and pounded him for the win had Loki not interfered.
Yeah, its true enough that Kurse has insane damage soak. He's kind of like Ajax in that regard. I can agree he doesn't feel pain, or at least doesn't care about.
Also, Kurse didn't stop the Hammer like Hulk tried to. He redirected it slightly. I wouldn't really count that as a strength feat. If he caught it and waved it around, I'd be impressed.
Also, I missed Zods flight being disabled here. Thats my bad. I should have paid more attention to OP. Despite that, I seem to remember him bounding pretty fast up the side of a building. He didn't have super speed for a good portion of that fight, but still kept up with someone who does, and could fly.