KuRuPT Thanosi
Senior Member
Originally posted by Arachnid1
The absence of proof means the absence of feats. That puts the burden of proof on you, but that's impossible since you've already noted that those feats are absent. I'm definitely not trying to undersell Kurse. He's a beast, and likely one of the tops in the MCU so far. He just hasn't shown the feats to be considered above a Kyptonian.Hulk wasn't holding up oil rigs or tackling over skyscrapers. His hits with the HB did make shockwaves, but nowhere near the level of shockwaves Supes and Zod colliding made. Thor also was not shown to be in the same ballpark strength wise. He's strong, but not enough to give Hulk a run in that stat. He won that fight due to significantly greater skill and superior fighting speed.
You're also trying to use A > B > C logic, which isn't valid here. Hulks strength feats don't translate to Thor, and they definitely don't translate to Kurse. That, combined with Kurses lack of feats, is kind of a death sentence when put into a fight with someone who does have feats.
Yeah, its true enough that Kurse has insane damage soak. He's kind of like Ajax in that regard. I can agree he doesn't feel pain, or at least doesn't care about.
It's funny how you view a scene one way, and I take the scene the totally opposite. Don't get me wrong, I see your point, but I just don't think it's the most logical one. For instance, you claim from Zod and superman were more impressive, I feel the opposite. Zod's and Superman's shockwaves were done with the aid of flight i.e. speed. Thus aiding in the creation of, and power of said shockwaves. Hulk were done without the aid of speed like that, and thus more impressive he was able to create them.
One of Thor's hammer throws literally send Hulk flying, Kurse either no sold it or simply swatted it away as if it was a toy. Again, in Hulk we're talking about somebody as stronger or stronger than Clark or Zod, and Thor was holding his own. Against Kurse he was a minor annoyance who was treated like a feeb. It's the marked disparity between the showings that makes it all the more impressive, and where the heart of the extrapolation lies. Thor has a wide array of feats throughout his appearances... Frost Giants, Huge Leviathan etc etc. Yet this same person, was treated like an utter feeb. That is more impressive than anything Zod did in the entire movie.
It goes like this
Kurse treating Thor like such a feeb >>>> Than anything Zod did in the entire movie.
You're claiming the feats lie with Zod, and that couldn't be further from the truth. IN fact, it's the exact opposite. Zod has ZERO impressive combat feats. Let's examine:
1. Zod losses convincingly to Jor-El
2. Gets bull rushed by superman and is unable to counter anything. He's head is beaten so bad without a counter, that his protective mask is destroyed and he has to BFR himself
3. Again losses to superman in a straight up fight
To even pretend Zod has the better combat feats is being disingenuous friend, and looking at the above, I think you'd tend to agree. It's not that losing to superman is a low showing per se, but when Kurse is casually and easily dealing with a super powered being. A being with more powers than superman by a large degree. Yet was unable to do a thing to Kurse. The combat feats are squarely in Kurse favor. Let's take it further
1. Durability - Kurse and easily so
2. Skill - Kurse and easily so
3. Speed - Zod, with flight easily so, without it, he's simply faster
4. Damage Soak - Kurse, and again easily so
5. Strength - Hard to say, but neither one would have a decisive edge imo
6. Reactions - Stalemate, possibly a very slight edge to Zod based on his speed.
All in all, Kurse simply is better at more combat related variables imo.