Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Originally posted by h1a8
Well what's the definition of fighting speed? He can move his hands faster and he can respond faster.

Moving your hands fast does not make one a fast fighter.

so.. Deadshot v Ozy , anyone... since Floyd can shoot at his legs..

hahahahahahhaahaha

WS kicks him out.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Moving your hands fast does not make one a fast fighter.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Moving your hands fast does not make one a fast fighter.

Whether I agree or disagree, no one has defined the term "fighting speed" so how can you be right?

Fighting speed encompasses hand or leg speed and reaction speed. It may or may not encompass other things but those 2 are essential to the definition.

Originally posted by h1a8
Whether I agree or disagree, no one has defined the term "fighting speed" so how can you be right?

Fighting speed encompasses hand or leg speed and reaction speed. It may or may not encompass other things but those 2 are essential to the definition.

"Hand speed" in the context of a fight means how fast someone punches. It does not imply how fast you can wave your hands or simply move your hands from point A to point B. Same goes with leg speed. Usain Bolt is a fast runner but that does not make him a fast fighter.

Originally posted by h1a8
Whether I agree or disagree, no one has defined the term "fighting speed" so how can you be right?

Fighting speed encompasses hand or leg speed and reaction speed. It may or may not encompass other things but those 2 are essential to the definition.

I'm taking your refusal to compare clips of their fighting speed as you admitting that WS is faster.

Thank you.

Froth, you've already lost this argument. Not only can you not prove WS is fighting faster than Ozy is. I posted a clip of Ozy and asked you to post a clip of WS fighting faster and to quantify by how much. You couldn't come up with anything concrete and simply said "He appears to be punching a little faster" . That isn't what I'd call concrete proof of anything.

Second, as I've got you to admit, Ozy could exponentially punch faster than WS based on the bullet catching feat. The question is, would be the quality of the punch or the power. That could be called into question. What can't though, is that Ozy could move his arm in a punching motion faster.

The clips prove that WS fights faster.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm taking your refusal to compare clips of their fighting speed as you admitting that WS is faster.

Thank you.

You never defined "fighting speed". So how could I without possibly posting clips of irrelevant things.

Originally posted by FrothByte
"Hand speed" in the context of a fight means how fast someone punches. It does not imply how fast you can wave your hands or simply move your hands from point A to point B. Same goes with leg speed. Usain Bolt is a fast runner but that does not make him a fast fighter.

The Hand speed I'm referring to is moving one's hand from A to B.
You know it's a form of trolling to not address the question of whom you are debating with? I simply asked for your definition of fighting speed. I didn't ask you to only address my comment on hand speed.

I'm taking your continued refusal to compare clips of their fighting speed as you admitting that WS is faster.

Thank you.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm taking your continued refusal to compare clips of their fighting speed as you admitting that WS is faster.

Thank you.

What does it mean to fight faster?

It means being able to fight at a higher speed and you have already admitted that WS fights faster.

So, thank you.

Originally posted by h1a8
What does it mean to fight faster?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm taking your refusal to compare clips of their fighting speed as you admitting that WS is faster.

Thank you.

Since you're convinced Bucky "fights faster" why don't you go ahead and prove he does and by how much. Froth has literally said it's hard to tell what speed was being used or how much faster, it only "appears" like it might be a little faster. Hardly what I'd call concrete proof. If you have concrete proof. Go ahead and post it.

Nice attempt to shift the burden, but it's not going to work.

I'm going to take that as your concession.

No, YOU said Bucky fights faster. PROVE he fights faster or I accept your concession on the matter.

Nice try but it's not going to work, the original claim was made by your side that means the burden is on your side.

Concession accepted.

I accept your concession.

thank you