Originally posted by Silent MasterCatching a bullet proves that Ozy can fight faster. It proves that he can move his hands faster and it proves he react faster than WS. You can agree to disagree but you would be an idiot to do so.
Then prove it by posting clips where Ozy fights faster than WS can.
Does IF catching a bullet prove his fighting speed? Does Deadpool blocking and slicing a bullet prove his fighting speed?
Originally posted by h1a8
Catching a bullet proves that Ozy can fight faster. It proves that he can move his hands faster and it proves he react faster than WS. You can agree to disagree but you would be an idiot to do so.Does IF catching a bullet prove his fighting speed? Does Deadpool blocking and slicing a bullet prove his fighting speed?
Catching a bullet proves that Ozy can catch things fast. It proves that he has amazing reflexes. And yes, these are very important in a fight and will definitely help make you a fast fighter. However, reflexes alone does not equate to being a fast fighter. After all if that was the case then table tennis players should make fast fighters no?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Moving your arm balled into a fist will have no powerin it. For your punch to have power, even a jab, your body needs to move with it. From your legs to your core to your back and yes your arms, all of them work in concert to deliver the blow. Trying to punch using only arm muscles is what you call rabbit punches.So simply moving your hand is very different from actually throwing a punch.
Moron, you buffoon, clownshoes 5000!!! So I don't have to quote you across numerous threads proving I was right. YOU JUST SAID THE EXACT THING I SAID YOU DID, AND CLAIMED YOU DIDN'T. You first didn't to admit he could move his arm that fast to punch. You get clowned on the subject as you don't have the least clue about physiology of the human body and how movement works. YOU THEN GO, well fine, he might be able to move his arm faster in a punch motion, but that doesn't make it a hard shot with your whole body into it, it's just an arm punch. THIS IS EXACTLY what you just tried to say here. Holy shit you're a buffoon. Thanks for posting this and I accept you concession on all accounts.
Further, and this is where your complete lack of the basic sciences comes into play. You do realize if he can move his arm that fast to catch a bullet, you do realize how that alone increases the impact of a blow. Or maybe you don't realize that an arm moving at those speeds hitting you, is going to produce a significant amount of force. Further, in the video below, go to section 1:16 of the video. Notice how he's just using a backhand punch there. No leverage, no legs being used or much of anything besides arm/shoulder muscles. What you like to call and arm punch that does nothing. Only it does, in fact it strikes his foe so hard it sends him off his feat a back a little. Which stands to reason of course because of the speed he's likely hitting him with. You know that whole speed/force thing you obviously missed is school.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Moving your arm balled into a fist will have no powerin it. For your punch to have power, even a jab, your body needs to move with it. From your legs to your core to your back and yes your arms, all of them work in concert to deliver the blow. Trying to punch using only arm muscles is what you call rabbit punches.So simply moving your hand is very different from actually throwing a punch.
Even then the claim is preposterous. His original claim was that moving your arm fast doesn't make it a solid punch or a hard one. He questioned Ozy's ability to throw an effective punch moving his arm that fast, as if Ozy's skill needs to be called into question. I'll go ahead and back the guy who can send people flying with blows as far or further than WS ever has, all the while never getting hit nor being put to sleep by an amateur move. He seems to think the guy who's been routinely hit, caught in holds, disarmed, put to sleep is more skilled.... odd.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Throwing a punch can also be done without using your entire body. Try lying down and thrown a punch. It's very mucg possible
Correct, and you end up with rabbit punches. In other words, punches without any power. Now tell me how exactly that's going to help Ozy here? Are you telling me he's going to use weak, rabbit punches against WS?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Even then the claim is preposterous. His original claim was that moving your arm fast doesn't make it a solid punch or a hard one. He questioned Ozy's ability to throw an effective punch moving his arm that fast, as if Ozy's skill needs to be called into question. I'll go ahead and back the guy who can send people flying with blows as far or further than WS ever has, all the while never getting hit nor being put to sleep by an amateur move. He seems to think the guy who's been routinely hit, caught in holds, disarmed, put to sleep is more skilled.... odd.
So go ahead and post vids of Ozy sending people flying with fast punches.
Guess it never occurred to you that there's a reason why Ozy doesn't fight in bullet time speed even if he was fast enough to catch a bullet.
Your a clown, simply a clown. You spent 3 posts disputing you said something I said you did. Then you post to somebody else saying almost exactly what I claimed you said. I guess I can take joy in the fact that you self owned yourself, but it's annoying that you constantly say you never said something and then I need to go find the quotes. Then you'll go, well yeah I said that, but I've changed my mind now LOL. Sure thing kiddo.
I just posted a clip, even referenced a specific time stamp, where he uses mostly his arm to punch and got no leverage behind it and not the guy back and off his feet. Seems like it was pretty effective and he likely could punch even faster than that with ease.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Correct, and you end up with rabbit punches. In other words, punches without any power. Now tell me how exactly that's going to help Ozy here? Are you telling me he's going to use weak, rabbit punches against WS?
Only I posted a clip of him with back turned to his foe... with no extra leverage from torqueing your legs or hips into the punch.. nor using an extra back muscles. He was still able to send the guy off his feet and back a little. Did you miss that part?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Correct, and you end up with rabbit punches. In other words, punches without any power. Now tell me how exactly that's going to help Ozy here? Are you telling me he's going to use weak, rabbit punches against WS?
Also people with bad form can deliver KO punches.
Let's not forget having extra arm speed will definitely not hurt him throwing an proper punch.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
People can definitely deliver power punches without the use of their entire body.Also people with bad form can deliver KO punches.
Let's not forget having extra arm speed will definitely not hurt him throwing an proper punch.
Ok, so give me an example of someone doing a power punch using ONLY arm muscles. Even a jab uses more than just arm muscles.
People with bad form can still knock out other people...by still using more than just their arm muscles to deliver a punch. An untrained person will normally throw a haymaker, and that uses more than just arm muscles.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Only I posted a clip of him with back turned to his foe... with no extra leverage from torqueing your legs or hips into the punch.. nor using an extra back muscles. He was still able to send the guy off his feet and back a little. Did you miss that part?
I don't think you ever posted a clip of Ozy sending someone flying with pure arm strength alone. If I'm mistaken feel free to post the clip again.
Froth you literally have zero clue what you're talking about. Still, after all this time. You have no clue about the brain nor the human body. The same thing everything you'd use to raise your arm (resting at your side) to the middle of the chest, are much the same muscles you'd use to punch. Nobody is claiming a punch only uses arm muscles. Just like raising your arm really fast to your chest ISN'T only arm muscles. What you don't get is, as fast as Ozy can move his arm, him just flicking his fist out there at that speed would knocked somebody back or out. You have zero clue about speed/force and impact if you think somebody moving their fist that fast wouldn't do damage just because he didn't torque is entire body.
I even showed you a punch where Ozy wasn't proper position, wasn't using his legs or torso to add extra leverage into the punch... and it still knocked him backwards and in the air. Notice how you've avoided that punch completely. Telling
Originally posted by FrothByte
You never posted a clip where he actually punched someone and send him flying just by using arm strength.
I actually did post the link and the time stamp a few posts ago. He wasn't in any kind of proper position to punch, nor use his legs, back or torso for anything extra. He still send him off his feet and a little backwards. That was mostly all an "arm" punch as you call it LOL. yet it obviously was still effective wasn't it?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I actually did post the link and the time stamp a few posts ago. He wasn't in any kind of proper position to punch, nor use his legs, back or torso for anything extra. He still send him off his feet and a little backwards. That was mostly all an "arm" punch as you call it LOL. yet it obviously was still effective wasn't it?
KT, your most common lie is saying stuff like "I posted it before but you never acknowledged it". Fact is, you rarely ever have posted stuff you claim to. So if you really did post it, then please repost it. Shouldn't be too hard for you.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Froth you literally have zero clue what you're talking about. Still, after all this time. You have no clue about the brain nor the human body. The same thing everything you'd use to raise your arm (resting at your side) to the middle of the chest, are much the same muscles you'd use to punch. Nobody is claiming a punch only uses arm muscles. Just like raising your arm really fast to your chest ISN'T only arm muscles. What you don't get is, as fast as Ozy can move his arm, him just flicking his fist out there at that speed would knocked somebody back or out. You have zero clue about speed/force and impact if you think somebody moving their fist that fast wouldn't do damage just because he didn't torque is entire body.I even showed you a punch where Ozy wasn't proper position, wasn't using his legs or torso to add extra leverage into the punch... and it still knocked him backwards and in the air. Notice how you've avoided that punch completely. Telling
Once you've actually tried getting into a fight you'll understand what we adults are talking about. For now, continue to watch your anime shows.
Originally posted by FrothByte
KT, your most common lie is saying stuff like "I posted it before but you never acknowledged it". Fact is, you rarely ever have posted stuff you claim to. So if you really did post it, then please repost it. Shouldn't be too hard for you.
That's rich coming from you. I literally just owned you by repeating what you said and our summarizing our argument. You said you never said such things. Then you went ahead and said the same summary to somebody else. Yeah, that's rich coming from you. To say nothing of the numerous times I've had to quote you because you refused to agree you said it. Then I post it, yeah well, I changed my mind LOL
here you go, AGAIN
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Moron, you buffoon, clownshoes 5000!!! So I don't have to quote you across numerous threads proving I was right. YOU JUST SAID THE EXACT THING I SAID YOU DID, AND CLAIMED YOU DIDN'T. You first didn't to admit he could move his arm that fast to punch. You get clowned on the subject as you don't have the least clue about physiology of the human body and how movement works. YOU THEN GO, well fine, he might be able to move his arm faster in a punch motion, but that doesn't make it a hard shot with your whole body into it, it's just an arm punch. THIS IS EXACTLY what you just tried to say here. Holy shit you're a buffoon. Thanks for posting this and I accept you concession on all accounts.Further, and this is where your complete lack of the basic sciences comes into play. You do realize if he can move his arm that fast to catch a bullet, you do realize how that alone increases the impact of a blow. Or maybe you don't realize that an arm moving at those speeds hitting you, is going to produce a significant amount of force. Further, in the video below, go to section 1:16 of the video. Notice how he's just using a backhand punch there. No leverage, no legs being used or much of anything besides arm/shoulder muscles. What you like to call and arm punch that does nothing. Only it does, in fact it strikes his foe so hard it sends him off his feat a back a little. Which stands to reason of course because of the speed he's likely hitting him with. You know that whole speed/force thing you obviously missed is school.