Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Started by FrothByte150 pages

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Second, as I've got you to admit, Ozy could exponentially punch faster than WS based on the bullet catching feat.

Do you ever get tired of your BS? No one here believes your lies. You didn't get me, or anyone else, to admit or concede to anything you ever said. If you were Pinocchio you could probably f**k yourself in the @ss with your nose by now.

Originally posted by h1a8
You never defined "fighting speed". So how could I without possibly posting clips of irrelevant things.

The Hand speed I'm referring to is moving one's hand from A to B.
You know it's a form of trolling to not address the question of whom you are debating with? I simply asked for your definition of fighting speed. I didn't ask you to only address my comment on hand speed.

So... I addressed a post in a public thread and that's considered trolling? I don't think you know how these forums work. You want to talk privately to someone you PM them. Otherwise, any of your posts are up for debate.

"Fighting speed" is a common term used in the martial arts and it basically means you're able to fight fast. Hand speed is another term very commonly used in the fighting world, and it basically means being able to punch or strike (with hands) fast.

I don't need to define these because these are very common terms. If you don't know what they mean well then now you know.

If you simply want to refer to one's hand speed as in moving your hand fast from point A to point B, I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with fighting. Lots of people can move their hands fast, that's not going to help them in a fight.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you ever get tired of your BS? No one here believes your lies. You didn't get me, or anyone else, to admit or concede to anything you ever said. If you were Pinocchio you could probably f**k yourself in the @ss with your nose by now.

You don't say... Shall I find the quote where you admit exactly as I said? We can place a little wager on what you said. I want to get something straight here... You're saying you didn't say that

Ozy could move his arm faster than bucky based on feats, but that doesn't mean it would be hard effective punches. You didn't say that?

You'll notice the side claiming that Ozy can fight faster has yet to post a single clip that backs up their stance.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Do you ever get tired of your BS? No one here believes your lies. You didn't get me, or anyone else, to admit or concede to anything you ever said. If you were Pinocchio you could probably f**k yourself in the @ss with your nose by now.
😂

Kt has always been an incoherent mess and liar.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't say... Shall I find the quote where you admit exactly as I said? We can place a little wager on what you said. I want to get something straight here... You're saying you didn't say that

Ozy could move his arm faster than bucky based on feats, but that doesn't mean it would be hard effective punches. You didn't say that?

I am embarrassed for you.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't say... Shall I find the quote where you admit exactly as I said? We can place a little wager on what you said. I want to get something straight here... You're saying you didn't say that

Ozy could move his arm faster than bucky based on feats, but that doesn't mean it would be hard effective punches. You didn't say that?

Go ahead. Quote me on where I said something like this:

"As I've got you to admit, Ozy could exponentially punch faster than WS based on the bullet catching feat."

Quote me on where I 'admitted' that Ozy could punch faster than WS based on the bullet catching feat.

You're such a clownshoes sometimes. Jesus. I can go find all the relevant quotes in the other thread, but it's so crazy how many times I've literally done that and you've gone oh that's right I did. LOL. It's so retarded because of I've asked you to just admit that and you've refused and here we are again.

Here's the argument

I go he can punch that fast or around that area because he's proven he can move his arm that fast and gone a similar distance.

You disagree at first and go blah blah blah it's not a punch or the same as punch.

I go, well it's still requires arm muslces among other things, one being fast twitch muscles. Something Ozy clearly has. Much the same elements are the same in him catching the bullet and a punch as in the use the same elements to accomplish the movement. Just different purpose for it and end results.

You go, yeah well he might be able to move his arm in a punching motion faster, but that doesn't make it a go hard punch. It would only be a weak punch at best.

does that not summarize exactly whast was said in the discussion? I think it does. You don't? Let me guess you do, and I'll have to find the quotes. AMIRITE?

Another incoherent paragraph if you have the misfortune of reading will leave you scratching your head in utter shame and contempt for the village idiot known as Kt.

Notice that kt still hasn't posted any clips that show Ozy fighting faster than WS.

I'm impressed (not in a good way) this thread is still going. Whats the point? Neither side is going to convince the other, and it's been reduced to people insulting and using illogical arguments just to troll.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So... I addressed a post in a public thread and that's considered trolling? I don't think you know how these forums work. You want to talk privately to someone you PM them. Otherwise, any of your posts are up for debate.

"Fighting speed" is a common term used in the martial arts and it basically means you're able to fight fast. Hand speed is another term very commonly used in the fighting world, and it basically means being able to punch or strike (with hands) fast.

I don't need to define these because these are very common terms. If you don't know what they mean well then now you know.

If you simply want to refer to one's hand speed as in moving your hand fast from point A to point B, I'm not exactly sure what that has to do with fighting. Lots of people can move their hands fast, that's not going to help them in a fight.

If you fight with your hands and can move them fast (when fighting) and react to attacks very quickly then, by definition, you can fight fast.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You'll notice the side claiming that Ozy can fight faster has yet to post a single clip that backs up their stance.
The bullet catching scene. It proves that Ozy can move his hands from A to B fast and that he can react very quickly. If Ozy fights with his hands and reflexes then he can fight faster than WS.

So an Nfl wide receiver can fight better than a UFC fighter because his hands move quicker to catch footballs ??

Originally posted by h1a8
The bullet catching scene. It proves that Ozy can move his hands from A to B fast and that he can react very quickly. If Ozy fights with his hands and reflexes then he can fight faster than WS.

Then prove it by posting clips where Ozy fights faster than WS can.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're such a clownshoes sometimes. Jesus. I can go find all the relevant quotes in the other thread, but it's so crazy how many times I've literally done that and you've gone oh that's right I did. LOL. It's so retarded because of I've asked you to just admit that and you've refused and here we are again.

Here's the argument

I go he can punch that fast or around that area because he's proven he can move his arm that fast and gone a similar distance.

You disagree at first and go blah blah blah it's not a punch or the same as punch.

I go, well it's still requires arm muslces among other things, one being fast twitch muscles. Something Ozy clearly has. Much the same elements are the same in him catching the bullet and a punch as in the use the same elements to accomplish the movement. Just different purpose for it and end results.

You go, yeah well he might be able to move his arm in a punching motion faster, but that doesn't make it a go hard punch. It would only be a weak punch at best.

does that not summarize exactly whast was said in the discussion? I think it does. You don't? Let me guess you do, and I'll have to find the quotes. AMIRITE?

See? I knew you wouldn't be able to back up your lies with an actual quote.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you fight with your hands and can move them fast (when fighting) and react to attacks very quickly then, by definition, you can fight fast.

Moving your hands fast is different from punching and striking fast. Anyone with even basic fight training knows this.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So an Nfl wide receiver can fight better than a UFC fighter because his hands move quicker to catch footballs ??

Are you implying football players catch footballs by moving their arms only?

And not running to catch a ball that has been thrown for them to intercept?

Please slap yourself

Originally posted by FrothByte
Moving your hands fast is different from punching and striking fast. Anyone with even basic fight training knows this.

Maybe you can explain the difference between moving your arm and moving your arm with your fist balled up for me.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Maybe you can explain the difference between moving your arm and moving your arm with your fist balled up for me.

Moving your arm balled into a fist will have no powerin it. For your punch to have power, even a jab, your body needs to move with it. From your legs to your core to your back and yes your arms, all of them work in concert to deliver the blow. Trying to punch using only arm muscles is what you call rabbit punches.

So simply moving your hand is very different from actually throwing a punch.