Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That's rich coming from you. I literally just owned you by repeating what you said and our summarizing our argument. You said you never said such things. Then you went ahead and said the same summary to somebody else. Yeah, that's rich coming from you. To say nothing of the numerous times I've had to quote you because you refused to agree you said it. Then I post it, yeah well, I changed my mind LOL

here you go, AGAIN

What you say I said is completely different from what I actually said. Again, you spew your lies. You really think people are going to believe you?

But as to that video clip you posted, you'll notice that as he does that backhand he leans forward and puts his weight into it right?

So go ahead and watch it again. I hope you're capable of admitting when you're wrong.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What you say I said is completely different from what I actually said. Again, you spew your lies. You really think people are going to believe you?

But as to that video clip you posted, you'll notice that as he does that backhand he leans forward and puts his weight into it right?

So go ahead and watch it again. I hope you're capable of admitting when you're wrong.

Originally posted by FrothByte
What you say I said is completely different from what I actually said. Again, you spew your lies. You really think people are going to believe you?

But as to that video clip you posted, you'll notice that as he does that backhand he leans forward and puts his weight into it right?

So go ahead and watch it again. I hope you're capable of admitting when you're wrong.

Total lie, it's all there for everybody to see. I summarized your argument, you said that isn't what you said. Turns out that is almost exactly what you said, as you said it to somebody else a short time later. Owned.

Nobody said nothing moved on his entire body besides his arm. you do realize in a punch or a movement to catch a bullet, more muscles are being used besides arm muscles. Second, it doesn't matter if his momentum carried his body forward slightly. HE DIDN'T plan his legs, he didn't torque his legs, he didn't step into the punch, he didn't torque his torso or shoulders to get extra power behind. He didn't do these things you claim are needed for a powerful punch. NONE of them. His body slightly moving doesn't change the above. He didn't put his power into the punch, and it still sent the guy off his feet and backwards a couple feet. He wasn't even in a good punching position for leverage and it still hurt the guy. That illustrates the point completely

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Total lie, it's all there for everybody to see. I summarized your argument, you said that isn't what you said. Turns out that is almost exactly what you said, as you said it to somebody else a short time later. Owned.

Nobody said nothing moved on his entire body besides his arm. you do realize in a punch or a movement to catch a bullet, more muscles are being used besides arm muscles. Second, it doesn't matter if his momentum carried his body forward slightly. HE DIDN'T plan his legs, he didn't torque his legs, he didn't step into the punch, he didn't torque his torso or shoulders to get extra power behind. He didn't do these things you claim are needed for a powerful punch. NONE of them. His body slightly moving doesn't change the above. He didn't put his power into the punch, and it still sent the guy off his feet and backwards a couple feet. He wasn't even in a good punching position for leverage and it still hurt the guy. That illustrates the point completely

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Total lie, it's all there for everybody to see. I summarized your argument, you said that isn't what you said. Turns out that is almost exactly what you said, as you said it to somebody else a short time later. Owned.

Nobody said nothing moved on his entire body besides his arm. you do realize in a punch or a movement to catch a bullet, more muscles are being used besides arm muscles. Second, it doesn't matter if his momentum carried his body forward slightly. HE DIDN'T plan his legs, he didn't torque his legs, he didn't step into the punch, he didn't torque his torso or shoulders to get extra power behind. He didn't do these things you claim are needed for a powerful punch. NONE of them. His body slightly moving doesn't change the above. He didn't put his power into the punch, and it still sent the guy off his feet and backwards a couple feet. He wasn't even in a good punching position for leverage and it still hurt the guy. That illustrates the point completely

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One of these days KT, you really need to go through some form of martial arts training. It will make you realize how different actual fighting techniques are from the cartoons that you watch.

Do you know what a chambered punch is? It's the usual punch taught in martial arts like Karate or Taekwondo. When you watch someone doing a chambered punch, nothing else moves except the arms. And yet anyone who knows how to do this properly will tell you that there are various muscles involved in the punch. That your legs are completely engaged, especially your core. And so even if you don't move your other body parts, they are still engaged and their energy and muscle power is being utilized.

No one, NO ONE who actually knows how to throw a punch will ever say that you can throw a powerful punch using only arm muscles.

And that is proven in the clip that you provided. Ozy had to put his weight behind that backhand, which means he had to use core and leg muscles among other things to tilt his body into the punch.

"summarized" otherwise known as changing what a person said.

Does KT realize that he basically just admitted to creating a strawman?

Originally posted by FrothByte
One of these days KT, you really need to go through some form of martial arts training. It will make you realize how different actual fighting techniques are from the cartoons that you watch.

Do you know what a chambered punch is? It's the usual punch taught in martial arts like Karate or Taekwondo. When you watch someone doing a chambered punch, nothing else moves except the arms. And yet anyone who knows how to do this properly will tell you that there are various muscles involved in the punch. That your legs are completely engaged, especially your core. And so even if you don't move your other body parts, they are still engaged and their energy and muscle power is being utilized.

No one, NO ONE who actually knows how to throw a punch will ever say that you can throw a powerful punch using only arm muscles.

And that is proven in the clip that you provided. Ozy had to put his weight behind that backhand, which means he had to use core and leg muscles among other things to tilt his body into the punch.

LMAO HAHAHAHA. You're hopeless, and have no clue. As I said clownshoes, if you ever want a lesson in how to throw a punch or technique, give me a ring. This isn't a "I'm going to kick your butt and stalk you" T.I. thing. Nor is it, I'm mad at you thing. This is a lesson for you. In a ring, gloves on, and I want to hear you say all these things you've been spouting. It will then become crystal clear who comes from a place of experience here. It's not you.

What you said was a complete and total pile of dung. This is why you'll NEVER win an argument with me, when you're this bad at doing it. You're arguing from both sides of your mouth.

1. Here you're claiming that, look you don't need to be in proper position, torque your legs, hips and shoulders properly. You can still deliver a powerful blow while not doing those things. (THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING CLOWN)

2. Before your argument was, sure he can move his arm really fast in a punching motion, but that doesn't make it a hard punch. YOU LITERALLY SAID, to get power you need to be in proper position, torque your legs, shoulders, torso to get really good power. So no, those won't be effective punches Ozy is delivering nothing blows.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong, looking wrong and being proven wrong?

Originally posted by Silent Master
"summarized" otherwise known as changing what a person said.

Does KT realize that he basically just admitted to creating a strawman?

I already accepted your concession. You may leave now. Thanks for the concession though.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO HAHAHAHA. You're hopeless, and have no clue. As I said clownshoes, if you ever want a lesson in how to throw a punch or technique, give me a ring. This isn't a "I'm going to kick your butt and stalk you" T.I. thing. Nor is it, I'm mad at you thing. This is a lesson for you. In a ring, gloves on, and I want to hear you say all these things you've been spouting. It will then become crystal clear who comes from a place of experience here. It's not you.

What you said was a complete and total pile of dung. This is why you'll NEVER win an argument with me, when you're this bad at doing it. You're arguing from both sides of your mouth.

1. Here you're claiming that, look you don't need to be in proper position, torque your legs, hips and shoulders properly. You can still deliver a powerful blow while not doing those things. (THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING CLOWN)

2. Before your argument was, sure he can move his arm really fast in a punching motion, but that doesn't make it a hard punch. YOU LITERALLY SAID, to get power you need to be in proper position, torque your legs, shoulders, torso to get really good power. So no, those won't be effective punches Ozy is delivering nothing blows.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong, looking wrong and being proven wrong?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I already accepted your concession. You may leave now. Thanks for the concession though.

What you're doing is called deflecting. it's what people do when they're losing.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
LMAO HAHAHAHA. You're hopeless, and have no clue. As I said clownshoes, if you ever want a lesson in how to throw a punch or technique, give me a ring. This isn't a "I'm going to kick your butt and stalk you" T.I. thing. Nor is it, I'm mad at you thing. This is a lesson for you. In a ring, gloves on, and I want to hear you say all these things you've been spouting. It will then become crystal clear who comes from a place of experience here. It's not you.

What you said was a complete and total pile of dung. This is why you'll NEVER win an argument with me, when you're this bad at doing it. You're arguing from both sides of your mouth.

1. Here you're claiming that, look you don't need to be in proper position, torque your legs, hips and shoulders properly. You can still deliver a powerful blow while not doing those things. (THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING CLOWN)

2. Before your argument was, sure he can move his arm really fast in a punching motion, but that doesn't make it a hard punch. YOU LITERALLY SAID, to get power you need to be in proper position, torque your legs, shoulders, torso to get really good power. So no, those won't be effective punches Ozy is delivering nothing blows.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong, looking wrong and being proven wrong?

Strawman. Quote me on all the things that you claim I said. You have a nasty habit of manipulating what someone says and then claiming it's what they said. Want proof? Just look at all the times you claim I conceded. Still waiting for you to post quotes of me saying the things you claim.

Also, you're going to give me lessons? Please, I'd prefer not to get lessons from someone who thinks he can punch properly using simple arm movements or the guy who says time stops in the middle of a fight and that allows him to analyze each and every option available to him. I'd rather get lessons from someone who doesn't base his knowledge on Dragonball Z.

😂

Originally posted by FrothByte
Strawman. Quote me on all the things that you claim I said. You have a nasty habit of manipulating what someone says and then claiming it's what they said. Want proof? Just look at all the times you claim I conceded. Still waiting for you to post quotes of me saying the things you claim.

Also, you're going to give me lessons? Please, I'd prefer not to get lessons from someone who thinks he can punch properly using simple arm movements or the guy who says time stops in the middle of a fight and that allows him to analyze each and every option available to him. I'd rather get lessons from someone who doesn't base his knowledge on Dragonball Z.

You keep owning yourself and EASILY.

In the clip I provided that ISN'T close to a "proper punch" nor is it how you get proper leverage and torque into a punch. Things you've claimed numerous times. Yet he was still able to send the guy off his feet and flying back a few feet. With a position of poor leverage and not torqueing his body. It's hilarious, one one hand you'll go.. well you don't need to be in a proper position to have power behind a punch (EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING CLOWNSHOES)... Then you'll turn around and go... well yeah he can move his arm really fast and punch, but that isn't a proper punch with leverage behind it and torque your legs, torso, hips and shoulders. You literally talk out of both sides of your mouth. This convo can't continue with this level of buffoonery. Your argument has been crushed. Ozy can indeed punch hard enough to hurt people while not in proper position, while not putting all his weight behind it, while not torqueing his legs, torso and hips. Game over.

Please, as I said, anytime sport. I would love to laugh at you getting owned.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What you're doing is called deflecting. it's what people do when they're losing.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect, you claimed WS can fight faster. You have yet to prove the claim. Shall I quote you where you said so? Care to make a wager on it?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Incorrect, you claimed WS can fight faster. You have yet to prove the claim. Shall I quote you where you said so? Care to make a wager on it?

Go ahead quote where I made the original Claim about Winter Soldier being able to fight faster.

Winter Soldier was getting tagged left and right by some females. Ozy stomps this. He holds every advantage here.

Originally posted by carver9
Winter Soldier was getting tagged left and right by some females. Ozy stomps this. He holds every advantage here.

Lol!!!

Originally posted by carver9
Winter Soldier was getting tagged left and right by some females. Ozy stomps this. He holds every advantage here.

Speaking the truth.