Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, you admit that you want Ozy to win, but he doesn't have the feats needed.

Originally posted by h1a8
of course he does. His display of MA knowledge (easily schooling two skilled fighters) along with the ability to move his hands faster than WS and react before WS.

Then post the feats that show Ozy can use his "hand speed" to outfight WS.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then post the feats that show Ozy can use his "hand speed" to outfight WS.

No, it's not.

Now, post feats that show Ozy can use his "hand speed" to outfight WS.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it's not.

Now, post feats that show Ozy can use his "hand speed" to outfight WS.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Why are people ONLY arguing Ozys punching speed?
What about the fact that he could move his arms so fast he could easily deflect WS punches

Ozy caught one bullet. Awesome feat. But Bucky will be throwing multiple strikes. And when Ozy caught that bullet, he was knocked down and was vulnerable for some time.

Now Ozy does have feats of blocking multiple hits from Night Owl and Rosch, but WS is faster and far stronger than both.

So "easily deflecting"? You're going to have to prove what makes you think he can do so easily.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course it is. I used your exact words. Simply explain why it's different.

IOW, you can't post any feats that back up your claim.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ozy caught one bullet. Awesome feat. But Bucky will be throwing multiple strikes. And when Ozy caught that bullet, he was knocked down and was vulnerable for some time.

Now Ozy does have feats of blocking multiple hits from Night Owl and Rosch, but WS is faster and far stronger than both.

So "easily deflecting"? You're going to have to prove what makes you think he can do so easily.

Are you implying multiple punches are faster than a single bullet?

O.o

Of course he is, he has zero clue how to extrapolate a feat to its fullest degree. He's completely unaware how much faster a bullet is than multiple punches. ESPECIALLY when you move your arm AFTER a bullet was fired. He thinks 2 or 3 punches of WS is somehow faster than a bullet and it will overwhelm him LOL. It's ludicrous.

Ozy never gets hit by a single punch... even while doing a monologue, even while having his back turned, even while fighting multiple foes... Clearly and decisively blocking every blow sent his way. Yet somehow, somebody who's gotten hit regular skilled humans, caught in holds by regular skilled humans, had his punches blocked by regular skilled humans.... Yet I'm supposed to believe WS is going to be the one landing the clean blows here most of the time? Laughable

We don't need to extrapolate his fighting speed, the movie provides us with several examples of his fighting speed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
We don't need to extrapolate his fighting speed, the movie provides us with several examples of his fighting speed.

I already accepted your concession. You can't prove WS is faster as you claimed

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I already accepted your concession. You can't prove WS is faster as you claimed

Provide the quote where I conceded or admit to being a liar

Originally posted by Silent Master
Provide the quote where I conceded or admit to being a liar

KT will never do that. He will always claim you said something and never back it up with an actual quote.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Are you implying multiple punches are faster than a single bullet?

O.o

No, just that Ozy has never demonstrated that he can move at the same speed when deflecting multiple attacks. He was completely vulnerable after catching that bullet.

So catching one bullet doesn't mean he can block multiple attacks from a superhuman.

Originally posted by FrothByte
KT will never do that. He will always claim you said something and never back it up with an actual quote.

You don't say, care to make a wager that I can find a post from Silent claiming WS has faster fighting speed? Sound good?

Originally posted by FrothByte
No, just that Ozy has never demonstrated that he can move at the same speed when deflecting multiple attacks. He was completely vulnerable after catching that bullet.

So catching one bullet doesn't mean he can block multiple attacks from a superhuman.

You mean when he faked being injured and played possum... Nice try

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't say, care to make a wager that I can find a post from Silent claiming WS has faster fighting speed? Sound good?

Your claim was that you accepted my concession therefore you have to post a quote of me saying I concede or something similar.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Your claim was that you accepted my concession therefore you have to post a quote of me saying I concede or something similar.

That's a totally separate matter. He said I was wrong in claiming you said he fights faster, thus I'm asking him to take a wager. The concession is a totally separate matter and a funny one at that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That's a totally separate matter. He said I was wrong in claiming you said he fights faster, thus I'm asking him to take a wager. The concession is a totally separate matter and a funny one at that.

That isn't what he said, that means you're lying again.

Here is what he actually said.

Originally posted by FrothByte
KT will never do that. He will always claim you said something and never back it up with an actual quote.

Originally posted by FrothByte
KT will never do that. He will always claim you said something and never back it up with an actual quote.