Originally posted by quanchi112
Elude you. Hahahah you don't know how to spell that word since this is the second time you've misspelled it.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I accept your concession yet again. Get back to me when you want to back up your he's 10x stronger clownshoes maneuver and compare FEATS THEY BOTH DID. Do I need to hold your hand through how to debate like I do Quan? You're as bad as that guy are you? Do you understand the logical line of progression here? Does it elude you? I never saw Odin kick a car or punch though door that was 5 inches thick or catch a shield thrown by Captain America. And? See where that goes. I've never seen Thanos do that, shit I don't recall Kurth doing stuff like that. And? That's why you compare SIMILAR feats. Things they've both done. Stuff like punch.. kick.. throw etc etc. Okay, so now that I've held your hand.. shall we begin?Show me a feat that is on par with Ozy bullet catching feat in terms of reactions and arm movement speed
We've never seen Odin do it, but due to his other feats, we can deduce the fact that he obviously can replicate Bucky's best feats, dipshit. The same can't be said for Ozymandias. I say again, provide a striking feat that matches Bucky punching the prison door off, or shut the **** up.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYou didn't address the part of my post proving you wrong. You just restating the same stuff knowing there is a rebuttal on the table. This is trolling.
I like how the clips clearly show that WS is the faster fighter, yet you still refuse to admit reality.
I gave proof of how the fights were not in real time. I even claimed that Ozy movements were faster if we assume the fights were happening in real time. I challenged you to find a move or attack that WS did in the clips you posted that were faster than Ozy moves. You are the one stating he is shown fighting faster. I don't see how. Give me one example. Because WS is moving with normal human speed ( because he's a human actor).
Originally posted by Silent MasterI've reported you for trolling. This just got to stop. If you want to debate here and reply to people then YOU MUST ADDRESS their valid points. Continuing to ignore people's points while restating your posts isn't debating, it's trolling. You are a bigger troll than Quan.
I get it, you don't like the fact that the clips clearly show WS fights faster.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
We've never seen Odin do it, but due to his other feats, we can deduce the fact that he obviously can replicate Bucky's best feats, dipshit. The same can't be said for Ozymandias. I say again, provide a striking feat that matches Bucky punching the prison door off, or shut the **** up.
Based on which feats of Odin and Thanos do you believe they could replicate WS feats. Which specific ones clownshoes.
I see you were unable to match the first category and feats of Ozy. I didn't think you would be able to. Let's go to another, you know, feats they have in common you moron.
Please post the clip of WS, in combat, tossing a foe further than Ozy tossed RO. I'll await your concession here as well.
Originally posted by h1a8
I've reported you for trolling. This just got to stop. If you want to debate here and reply to people then YOU MUST ADDRESS their valid points. Continuing to ignore people's points while restating your posts isn't debating, it's trolling. You are a bigger troll than Quan.
and that saying something. He is a bigger troll, just not quite as dumb as Quan
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There is no borderline about it. He's in the superhuman category. He has feats that ever outperform the guys you listed. I feel they are all in the same ballpark. Cap could be a little stronger, it's possible for sure. Point is, they are relatively comparable enough that it wouldn't likely be the deciding factor. Each have feats above the other doing the same actions. The feats that Cap does that Ozy never attempted is hard to quantify exactly. What you can compare as they've done similar things... punching during fights... kicks during fights... Throws during fights.. reactions during fights.. stuff like that. For example, the perfect example is the car kicking feat... Ozy never attempted to kick a car or even anything similar, but I have no doubt he'd likely be able to. Considering the force he generated to send a grown man who's on the ground flying 15 or more feet. The reason I say such is because the pillar took some of the momentum away hitting it. Yet even after hitting a solid stable object he still flew another 5 to 8 feet. Yeah, I'd say he could kick a car and move it.
So using your analysis, Ozy could also hold down a chopper with his arms, press a motorcycle with 3 women over his head for an extended duration without showing stress, flip throw a motorcycle hard enough to wreck a tank, trade blows with Loki, tear a log with his fingers and get punched multiple times in the face by a robotic arm without getting his nose broken?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Based on which feats of Odin and Thanos do you believe they could replicate WS feats. Which specific ones clownshoes.I see you were unable to match the first category and feats of Ozy. I didn't think you would be able to. Let's go to another, you know, feats they have in common you moron.
Please post the clip of WS, in combat, tossing a foe further than Ozy tossed RO. I'll await your concession here as well.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? Are you autistic? You are like talking to a brick wall.
If you really need me to tell you why Odin can replicate Bucky's best feats, then I absolutely can not help you.
Which feats can't be matched? Ozy's shitty bullet catch, that you losers are desperately grasping on to for dear life, like its a chunk of rotting wood in the middle of the Pacific. Ok, here's a comparable one, in CW, during the raid scene German Police fired upon Bucky, he then blocks 3 or four shots with an out stretched palm, similar to a catching motion.
And kicking Rorschach is a striking feat, it's directly comparable to Bucky punching off the prison door, dummy.
Actually, I'll do you one better, in TWS, at the end battle on the helicarrier, Bucky kicks some dude like 30 feet straight through a jet engine, causing it to explode.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Seriously, wtf is wrong with you? Are you autistic? You are like talking to a brick wall.If you really need me to tell you why Odin can replicate Bucky's best feats, then I absolutely can not help you.
Which feats can't be matched? Ozy's shitty bullet catch, that you losers are desperately grasping on to for dear life, like its a chunk of rotting wood in the middle of the Pacific. Ok, here's a comparable one, in CW, during the raid scene German Police fired upon Bucky, he then blocks 3 or four shots with an out stretched palm, similar to a catching motion.
And kicking Rorschach is a striking feat, it's directly comparable to Bucky punching off the prison door, dummy.
Actually, I'll do you one better, in TWS, at the end battle on the helicarrier, Bucky kicks some dude like 30 feet straight through a jet engine, causing it to explode.
Right, based on implied power they should be able to you moronic idiot. I agree, and you're PROVING my point and don't even realize it. That is how dumb you truly are. It exhibits the point.... You can't try and compare feats of something the other person hasn't even tried and then go... see he can't do it. You're too dumb to understand that absence of proof isn't proof. That is exactly the point I was making. Ozy never tried hitting a steel door... What he did do, that is similar to what WS has done is kick people.. throw people... punch people... Jumping.. reactions... arm movement speed in combat. All these things we can ACTIVELY compare. Understand now you pint sized dweeb?
Good, so you can't match Ozy bullet catch feat then. You feat you mentioned isn't even on the same level as Ozy. You can VISIBLY see WS raise his arm BEFOER the shots were fired. He was AIM blocking. While somewhat impressive in a combat awareness and deduction feat.. It's not an impressive reaction feat. Ozy only moved his arm AFTER the bullet was fired. That poops all over the feat you mentioned. You concede WS can't replicate the reactions of Ozy... the perception of Ozy.. the arm movement speed of Ozy. I accept. Let's move on
You have yet to address my second question of comparable feats. WS has tossed people in combat.. Name me a throw he executed that was further than Ozy tossing RO like a child about 20 or more feet? I'll away your comparable feat.
The kicking feat you mentioned, while somewhat close, falls painfully short from a power perspective. Not only is WS feat ambiguous in nature because of the jet engine. It could easily be viewed as that aided the guys flight and being sucked into the engine. Really hard to say. Lets' say it didn't though... we are still left with it being behind Ozy from a power perspective. Ozy hit somebody ON THE GROUND in the head.. and sent them 15 feat. Never in all my life have I seen somebody kicking in the head on the ground.. and they sent flying. Not in real life not in the UFC.. not in Pride not in any old Vale Tudo fights. They barely move. In STARK contrast, we've seen people get kicking square in the chest as we say WS do.. and we've seen people go flying backwards. Obviously because its much easier to move an object of decent weight by striking a part with the most surface area and weight. Granted the kick was still powerful because while people are sent flying backwards they are sent into the air like that. So obviously it was a powerful kick. It just didn't exert the force Ozy's kick did. How much force Ozy would have to generate to send somebody flying just by kicking their head would be crazy. He did. That's the point. These feats are close, I've conceded that, but Ozy's is a little better. I'll await your answer to the above.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So using your analysis, Ozy could also hold down a chopper with his arms, press a motorcycle with 3 women over his head for an extended duration without showing stress, flip throw a motorcycle hard enough to wreck a tank, trade blows with Loki, tear a log with his fingers and get punched multiple times in the face by a robotic arm without getting his nose broken?
How is that anything close to what I've said? Ozy has a clear kicking feat which surpasses anything Cap has done or WS has done. So if they can kick and car and move it, yes I'll say Ozy can to. The chopper feat is different. While Ozy has thrown people further than WS ever has or even Cap... thus exhibiting the fact that he's in the ballpark with them.. I might not take it up as far as their high end feats. I already said Cap is likely a little stronger. So if that is my stance... my view will be... most of Cap strength feats, Ozy could likely do them. Some of his higher end feats, while nobody can say for sure, I could agree that it might be likely he couldn't pull those off. The point is, their strength comparison won't be the difference in this fight IMO. It's Ozy's speed, intelligence and skill vs. Cap's skill and durability. That is how I see this fight.