Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Right, we DO go by what is shown. WE ARE SHOWN that the director say no need to make his arm appear as it should it the bullet catching feat. We clearly and without ambiguity know the didn't try and speed up his arm to make it what it would actually look like. If he did, Ozy's arm would be a total blur and we'd see nothing. Yet, he didn't do that, in that all the fight scenes he used real people.. human people to choreograph the fights, not CGI. So yes, we DO go by what we see. I'll ask again, since you avoided the question....

How do you KNOW he wasn't fighting as fast as the bullet catching scene since we can see his arm move in both?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Odd, there's this strength gap you speak of when the feats to bare it out. Let's examine, as you seem a little bit confused on this subject.

In combat Bucky has thrown and tossed people. In combat Ozy has thrown and tossed people. If the strength gap was big and Ozy is "no where near as strong" then explain why Ozy has thrown people further? That doesn't seem to make sense does it?

In combat Bucky has kicked people, Ozy has kicked people. IF Bucky was so much stronger, than was has Ozy displayed a more powerful kick in combat? Odd somebody could throw somebody further and kick somebody harder.. yet be so vastly inferior strength wise... Oh wait..

Jumping, again required strength in the legs, back/core of the body. Being that you feel Bucky is so much stronger overall, you'd think he have the more impressive jumping feats... after all you seem to think he's body is simply stronger and better. Yet Ozy has jumped vastly further than WS ever has. Odd somebody so much weaker as you say could do that.

I think it's time to reevaluate this large strength gap you seem to think exists, it clearly doesn't big O.

@kt, prove that Ozy was fighting at bullet-time speeds.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Right, we DO go by what is shown. WE ARE SHOWN that the director say no need to make his arm appear as it should it the bullet catching feat. We clearly and without ambiguity know the didn't try and speed up his arm to make it what it would actually look like. If he did, Ozy's arm would be a total blur and we'd see nothing. Yet, he didn't do that, in that all the fight scenes he used real people.. human people to choreograph the fights, not CGI. So yes, we DO go by what we see. I'll ask again, since you avoided the question....

How do you KNOW he wasn't fighting as fast as the bullet catching scene since we can see his arm move in both?

Didn't know you were a mind reader. Guess it's nice knowing exactly what Zack Snyder had in mind.

So are you unable to answer the question?

If you want to claim he was fighting at bullet-time speed, the burden is on you.

Prove it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So are you unable to answer the question?

Because we all know that Comedian, Rosch and NO don't move anywhere near bullet speeds. And though Ozy was moving faster than them during their fight scenes, it wasn't that much faster.

So unless you want to claim that Comedian, Rosch and NO were moving at close to bullet speeds then that should answer your question: Ozy wasn't moving that fast in their fights.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He didn't decimate anything... he got owned, and will get owned again in a minute sport

Everyone thank kt for essentially admitting that Ozy not only hasn't, but can't fight at bullet-time.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's like people that claim Drago punches at 1850 PSI during a fight. Um no, that was done to a stationary target, not moving, not able to roll with the punch or avoid it, he set himself and took a deep breath and then gave it all he had.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I like how the clips clearly show that WS is the faster fighter, yet you still refuse to admit reality.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy was fighting faster than WS in the clips. If you disagree then what move do you think WS did that was faster than any move made by Ozy?

Because visually, Cap and WS move faster in their fight than Ozy and Rosch and NO.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ozy was fighting faster than WS in the clips. If you disagree then what move do you think WS did that was faster than any move made by Ozy?

Now you're just lying, WS is clearly fighting at a faster speed in the clips.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Now you're just lying, WS is clearly fighting at a faster speed in the clips.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Because visually, Cap and WS move faster in their fight than Ozy and Rosch and NO.

I challenge you too

Originally posted by h1a8
Prove it. Let's compare. Choose a move (post the exact time of the clip the move occurs at) that you think is faster than all the moves Ozy showed in his clip.

I've already posted the clips and the clips clearly show WS fighting faster.

Kt is avoiding kmc. He's been exposed. Hypocrite.

😂

Originally posted by Silent Master
I've already posted the clips and the clips clearly show WS fighting faster.

You lying about what the clips show doesn't mean I have to provide more proof, it just means everybody gets to laugh at your bias.

Originally posted by Silent Master
You lying about what the clips show doesn't mean I have to provide more proof, it just means everybody gets to laugh at your bias.

Yes you are and everybody knows it.