Ozymandias vs. Winter Soldier (h2h)

Started by Silent Master150 pages

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Ive said this several time 😐

Though not by much as you say

Yet, Ozy got thrown backwards by a .38 while WS didn't even budge after being hit by a far more powerful bullet.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Hey man, it was 10 feet if you mean the Ror face kick. I used the TV's as a reference and counted it from Ozy's body positioning as he took flight. Was around almost 4 tvs distance. Each TV is around 2.5 feet as Ror was around 2 TV's length while his knees and body were bent (0:39). The rest of the distance was his fall downward while still carrying some of the momentum from the kick.

And Ror flying didn't pulverise the column, either. He just bounced off it. You must be remembering wrong. (0:50-0:52)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3CYN7_Aa7E

Here is a diagram I used to determine his flight and distance:

First image is his starting point prior to flight.

Second image is his ending/impact point. With the added fall trajectory outlined.

It's more than 10 feet. These pictures are God awful... they give you ZERO perspective at all because of the angle of the photo. You keep discounting the progress as he hits the pillar as if it was just from an elevated position. If that was true he'd simply fall to the ground. You concede he still had force to carry him further... yet you're forgetting that the collision should've stopped him and slowed down some. He made impact. Thus, you'd agree he would've traveled even further had he not contacted the pillar. He did, and still traveled further. SO say that was a 10 foot kick is being disingenuous

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
You said his arm is vibranium... it's not from what i can remember... You just made that up?

Ozy probably spun around in his own accord to minimize damage to his hand.

Again Bucky has a metal arm 😬

show me where I said his arm was vibranium

Originally posted by Silent Master
Yet, Ozy got thrown backwards by a .38 while WS didn't even budge after being hit by a far more powerful bullet.

Incorrect he spun around to disperse energy to minimize damage to his hand.

Big difference bro

Originally posted by FrothByte
Did Night Owl and SS ever kick people several feet to the wall?

Yet, watch their fight with the prison dudes.. Some of those punches and kicks were sending them flying back with great force.

Originally posted by Inhuman
show me where I said his arm was vibranium

Lmao oh... why did you bring up vibranium? That's random

Originally posted by Inhuman
Even if his arm is metal (not Vibranium) he would still be pushed back if he was just a like Ozy, who was pushed back from a single bullet from a weaker gun. And WS was shot multiple times by an automatic rifle.

and lol@ Bucky being peak human. Did you not see bucky kick some guy (with his NON metal) foot like 30 feet?

Why do you keep acting like Ozy was KO'd or even the slightest bit hurt... Did not notice the smirk on his face when he opens his eyes. Did you miss how he seems to drop his hand to the side for dramatic effect... and then open his hand.. and thus his eyes. To think he wasn't playing dead and using dramatics tells me you don't know Ozy. He lives for the dramatic. He by no means was KO'd by the bullet like Nib seems to be suggesting.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It's more than 10 feet. These pictures are God awful... they give you ZERO perspective at all because of the angle of the photo. You keep discounting the progress as he hits the pillar as if it was just from an elevated position. If that was true he'd simply fall to the ground. You concede he still had force to carry him further... yet you're forgetting that the collision should've stopped him and slowed down some. He made impact. Thus, you'd agree he would've traveled even further had he not contacted the pillar. He did, and still traveled further. SO say that was a 10 foot kick is being disingenuous

I actually provided a video...

He deflected off the pillar and fell. He didn't get to travel his full distance but neither did the crewman WS kicked. They traveled the distance we saw ang I gave pretty conclusive reference points to measure distance. You can deny evidence if you want, but that's all you're doing.

I'm not sure you know what "concede" means the way you keep using it.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
*sigh* You see Bucky lift anything over a Ton?

Well I certainly don't see him getting pushed around by Cap. Nor does he easily go down despite the hits he takes from Cap. And I think we all agree that Cap has superhuman strength.

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Lmao oh... why did you bring up vibranium? That's random

I brought it up because you said that bucky wasnt pushed back because of his metal arm.

Then I said that his arm was a metal arm not vibranium. Vibranium is the metal that absorbs impacts.

Bucky metal arm would have been affected by the impact of the bullets. So would his whole body. But seeing as Bucky is real strong, it didnt affect him in the least.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well I certainly don't see him getting pushed around by Cap. Nor does he easily go down despite the hits he takes from Cap. And I think we all agree that Cap has superhuman strength.

ABC logic

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Ive said this several time 😐

Though not by much as you say

I'm confused here. You said you consider Bucky as only peak human but also agree that he's stronger than Ozy? Which means you also only consider Ozy peak human?

Originally posted by Inhuman
I brought it up because you said that bucky wasnt pushed back because of his metal arm.

Then I said that his arm was a metal arm not vibranium. Vibranium is the metal that absorbs impacts.

Bucky metal arm would have been affected by the impact of the bullets. So would his whole body. But seeing as Bucky is real strong, it didnt affect him in the least.

😐

Well at least you know i said because of his arm and strength

I love how the new theory is he had an armored glove... Odd he could even clinch his fist with rigid armor all around his hand LOL.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm confused here. You said you consider Bucky as only peak human but also agree that he's stronger than Ozy? Which means you also only consider Ozy peak human?

Yes that what i meant when i said Bucky is stronger just not as much as some people are saying in this thread

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I love how the new theory is he had an armored glove... Odd he could even clinch his fist with rigid armor all around his hand LOL.

Don't worry bro i crushed that non sense 😆

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Incorrect he spun around to disperse energy to minimize damage to his hand.

Big difference bro

IOW, Ozy couldn't handle the energy from a .38, whereas WS easily handled a far more powerful bullet.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why do you keep acting like Ozy was KO'd or even the slightest bit hurt... Did not notice the smirk on his face when he opens his eyes. Did you miss how he seems to drop his hand to the side for dramatic effect... and then open his hand.. and thus his eyes. To think he wasn't playing dead and using dramatics tells me you don't know Ozy. He lives for the dramatic. He by no means was KO'd by the bullet like Nib seems to be suggesting.

Who said KO?

Stunned is not KO'd. Stunned enough to fall over and fall down steps (unles you think he fell down steps for fun). And was on the ground for several seconds all vulenerable.

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, Ozy couldn't handle the energy from a .38, whereas WS easily handled a far more powerful bullet.

Do You understand the difference between catching a bullet and blocking a bullet?

Of course you do

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Who said KO?

Stunned is not KO'd. Stunned enough to fall over and fall down steps (unles you think he fell down steps for fun). And was on the ground for several seconds all vulenerable.

Why would he be stunned when he never hit his head?
Nor took any damage?