Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
Yes that what i meant when i said Bucky is stronger just not as much as some people are saying in this thread
Ok. I'm just trying to understand your powerscaling here. So Bucky is stronger than Ozy just not as much as people are saying, but you consider them both peak human. Do you consider NO and SS peak human as well? How bout Cap?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Ok. I'm just trying to understand your powerscaling here. So Bucky is stronger than Ozy just not as much as people are saying, but you consider them both peak human. Do you consider NO and SS peak human as well? How bout Cap?
All of them are peak human. Bucky would simply be stronger than ozy weaker than cap
Cap could probably be 1-3 tonner.
I remember some strength feat in AOS but i haven't watched it in a while.it had something to do with deathloks training
Originally posted by Silent Master
You're claiming that WS didn't get hit with the bullet's full kinetic payload, therefore you have to prove the bullet continued moving after hitting WS.
What in th **** are you talking about lmao
Have you been reading the posts at all or like skim through?
I said WS has a metal arm and sufficient strength
You're about to get that quanchi treatment and be ignored llf
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I love how the new theory is he had an armored glove... Odd he could even clinch his fist with rigid armor all around his hand LOL.
Technology already exists in our modern nonfiction world that can explain ultradurable yet flexible meaterials. From kevlar to graphene to liquid armor. Fact is, we don't know what Ozy's glove is made of. All we know is that it flattened the slug's tip on impact much as what it would do when hitting rigid body armor. Were it his skin, muscle and bone that did it, it would have at least retained its shape or at least be irregularly shaped or not stuck to the surface of the glove the way it did (as muscle and bone isn't exaclty flat, specially since he cleched his hand upon catching) and the bullet wouldn't have flattened and stuck to his glove like that.
The glove obviously stopped the bullet from penetrating. The glove is obviously armored. Don't know how you can even deny this.
You can deny this evidence (again) if you want, tho. Feel free.
Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
What in th **** are you talking about lmaoHave you been reading the posts at all or like skim through?
I said WS has a metal arm and sufficient strength
You're about to get that quanchi treatment and be ignored llf
Your response to me saying that WS handled being hit with a far more powerful bullet far better than Ozy did was to state that WS didn't catch it, so if you weren't implying that Ozy withstood more kinetic force, what exactly were you trying to argue?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Technology already exists in our modern nonfiction world that can explain ultradurable yet flexible meaterials. From kevlar to graphene to liquid armor. Fact is, we don't know what Ozy's glove is made of. All we know is that it flattened the slug's tip on impact much as what it would do when hitting rigid body armor. Were it his skin, muscle and bone that did it, it would have at least retained its shape or at least be irregularly shaped or not stuck to the surface of the glove the way it did (as muscle and bone isn't exaclty flat, specially since he cleched his hand upon catching) and the bullet wouldn't have flattened and stuck to his glove like that.The glove obviously stopped the bullet from penetrating. The glove is obviously armored. Don't know how you can even deny this.
You can deny this evidence (again) if you want, tho. Feel free.
Have to agree there. Even though in the novel Ozy caught the bullet barehanded (and bled some), felt the purpose of the glove and by extension Ozy's suit in the film was that it was bullet proof/resistant. Why else wear what looks like a cumbersome suit if it's not for protection.
Unless I'm forgetting and his hand was bleeding like in the novel?
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiSo another backdown for you on a topic you claimed to be well versed in. You're such a little *****.
I already challenged you and backdown from me. Trying to pontificate otherwise is comical. Besides, I probably won't get as much enjoyment out of this type of battle as I would the Bolg vs. Cap stomp one lol. This has been discussed for pages and pages with people better than you. So why would I battlezone you... when people have already helped you do some of the work on a subject I've already been discussing ad nauseam. Stop pretending like you didn't back down to me first.. you did. Besides, I've already proven you've backed down countless more times than me. I illustrated 3 threads where you said "not interested".. "Don't care enough about these characters" "not time for it" ... Those aren't valid excuses... those are you backing down over and over. I could find more just like it. Which again, is why it's funny to see you say I backed down.. when you've done it more and backed down from me originally
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Technology already exists in our modern nonfiction world that can explain ultradurable yet flexible meaterials. From kevlar to graphene to liquid armor. Fact is, we don't know what Ozy's glove is made of. All we know is that it flattened the slug's tip on impact much as what it would do when hitting rigid body armor. Were it his skin, muscle and bone that did it, it would have at least retained its shape or at least be irregularly shaped or not stuck to the surface of the glove the way it did (as muscle and bone isn't exaclty flat, specially since he cleched his hand upon catching) and the bullet wouldn't have flattened and stuck to his glove like that.The glove obviously stopped the bullet from penetrating. The glove is obviously armored. Don't know how you can even deny this.
You can deny this evidence (again) if you want, tho. Feel free.
i do agree that the gloves are no ordinary fabric however.
the bullet flattening could just as well be a testament to ozy durability.
i doubt SS would believe shooting a man whom she knew was covered in kevlar-like material would do anything...
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Technology already exists in our modern nonfiction world that can explain ultradurable yet flexible meaterials. From kevlar to graphene to liquid armor. Fact is, we don't know what Ozy's glove is made of. All we know is that it flattened the slug's tip on impact much as what it would do when hitting rigid body armor. Were it his skin, muscle and bone that did it, it would have at least retained its shape or at least be irregularly shaped or not stuck to the surface of the glove the way it did (as muscle and bone isn't exaclty flat, specially since he cleched his hand upon catching) and the bullet wouldn't have flattened and stuck to his glove like that.The glove obviously stopped the bullet from penetrating. The glove is obviously armored. Don't know how you can even deny this.
You can deny this evidence (again) if you want, tho. Feel free.
Rob is correct and that is exactly as I remembered it. Which is the point we're making here. He required no glove to pull the feat in the book, and here, without proof of what it is, we can't just assign it anything specific. Facts aren't there. The overriding fact is, he needs no glove and regardless.... You can call it adamantium for all I care.. while it is a good durability feat.. I wasn't arguing that point either way. I'm going to go find the section and see any talk about a glove.
What's funny herej, is the opposing side was trying to use this as a low showing for Ozy. That is how this line of discussion started. They said, even with a armored glove.. he was still stunned and hurt LOL. It couldn't be more obvious he spun to negate the force of the bullet and likely was either throw a little back from it.. or more likely.. being Ozy and all.. he's smart enough to know he can't keep bullet grabbing like that... he needs to act dead.. fall down.. let the dramatics begin and smirk as you open your eyes. Yet somehow, they tried to say it was low durability showing lol
Point is you can call that whatever material you like... he caught the damn bullet. Period. That poops and any speed or reaction feat from Bucky. And by poop, I mean the worst cause of the shits you've ever had.
Originally posted by tkitna
They are powerful enough to penetrate building foundations in order to climb but that doesn't prove they are stronger than mere military soldiers? Your just grasping at air at this point and becoming desperate.
Originally posted by Robtard
Have to agree there. Even though in the novel Ozy caught the bullet barehanded (and bled some), felt the purpose of the glove and by extension Ozy's suit in the film was that it was bullet proof/resistant. Why else wear what looks like a cumbersome suit if it's not for protection.Unless I'm forgetting and his hand was bleeding like in the novel?
watch they'll all whine about books BOOKZ!! Hence why not using any of it thus far lol. Regardless, as I said in my previous post, call it whatever material you like... doesn't matter to me. I don't think he needs the suit anyways to do that. But yes, why where something that looks protective if it doesn't protect you in some way. Either way, I only referenced it as a speed and reaction feat, I just LOL'd at the notion that he was KO'd or Stunned by catching the bullet as proposed earlier.