KuRuPT Thanosi
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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Because it wasn't clear evidence like in Blade where we see him moving his head faster than the bullet is moving when Blade shoots at Frost unexpectedly.Even in that scenario I don't think Frost was a proper speedster, but just capable of short blitzes, as displayed in his end fight with Blade. And as displayed in all other fights Blade is in where he moves fast, but not THAT fast.
So what Ozy did, where we don't see him specifically moving faster than a bullet, or see him do any other kind of super fast movement on bullet speed level, is just no where near enough evidence to call him an actual speedster.
He's faster than regular humans with impeccable coordination, timing and reflexes. But there's no evidence he's an actual speedster with speed well beyond WS.
I don't know what you mean here. What do you mean you don't know if he's a speedster? What does that even mean in this context. It's just a relative term. Do you mean a speedster like Flash or Superman? Obviously not. Does he have superhuman attributes that allow him to do stuff no human could do, and faster than any human could do. Thus he's a speedster in that respect. So I don't know what you mean by speedster.
Second, he has other displays of speed that backed that up that I've referenced before.
1. The assassination scene, he was avoiding direct gunfire from an assassin. Other people couldn't react, and they weren't even the target. He was, and was avoiding fire. Shit in the comic I believe he throw a ash tray to block one of the bullets
2. Scene with the comedian. Watch the clip. Comedian is a decorate military badass. He's been in numerous combat situations. Yet, he had a 15-20 feet separating him and Ozy. Yet, with no noise or seemingly any movement, he was right next to Comedian to disarm him. To move so fast a trained killer like Comedian could track him would take incredible speed. The look on Comedians face was like HOLY SHIT
3. In that same scene, he casually got a knife throw at close range. His arms were again at his side. Comedian throws it. Ozy Casually raises his arm to catch the knife
4. The fight with RO and N.O. Look at the clip, and I believe we've discussed this before. Notice when Ozy turns around really fast. You hear a noise indicative of speed. No human can move there torso like that and create any kind of fast movement like that. Yet the director in this movies used that sound all the time when Ozy was avoiding punches or kick. They were clearly used to indicate speed. The same noise was made when Ozy just quickly turned around and then was able to throw a chair before he got shoot his laser. Those sounds were just thrown in to thrown in any random sound. It was there for a reason.
5. Even the fight itself. We've seen N.O. casually deal with big strong tough guys. Easily outspeeding them and even sending them flying back against the jail bars or to the ground. Big strong dudes were getting clowned and owned. You never seen any normal guy just wading through huge strong dudes like it was nothing. That would never happen in real life. It was clearly shown to demonstrate their skill, speed and power. Yet Ozy, against those same super skilled dudes, was just casually blocking their punches. Even turning his back while they both attacked him. Not one punch landed. Again, clearly demonstrating his fast reflexes and timing. That was Ozy looking like he was taking a stroll in the park while doing that. That would take incredible speed to pull off.
Point is, that was the only indication of him being extremely fast, with fast reflexes, it was just his best showing.