Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus, Cronus, Heart of the Monster, etc.
1. Galactus- You pick a character whose powers vary vastly. What has Thor done with a fully fed Galactus?
I know the answer.
2. Heart of The Monster- A character who defines the dynamic power concept. Dark Dimension + shared feat= suspect.
4. Cronus- You can't be this damn stupid!
Originally posted by Sin I AM
God you are annoying. Look lets put it in terms you might understand. Savage, Mindless, Green Scar, Professor, Fixit are all personalities of Banner. Now we all know their strength and weaknesses. They are not one and the same although they're technically the same "hulk". Now take Devil Hulk. We havent seen Banner transform into this incarnation yet. Is it safe to assume he starts out at the same power level? Its hinted that he's stronger than all the hulks but it hasnt been shown.That's what i getting at. At what point do we stop adhering to lip service and what point do we look at actual on panel proof. Im not saying I have to see Brahma shake a galaxy to prove he's Odins equal. But id like to see something...savvy?
So what tier is Zeus since he is ftless? Low meta...hell is he even Herald level? He doesnt have fts, remember? Zeus was creating monsters that were 133 times more powerful than Hercules. That alone is trans tier power (the monster). He over powered Mjlonir, something that even Odin couldnt do. I can keep going but, whats the point.
Originally posted by carver9
So what tier is Zeus since he is ftless? Low meta...hell is he even Herald level? He doesnt have fts, remember? Zeus was creating monsters that were 133 times more powerful than Hercules. That alone is trans tier power (the monster). He over powered Mjlonir, something that even Odin couldnt do. I can keep going but, whats the point.
Skyfather
Don't care about 133 hercs
He didnt over power mjolnir
Stop being a bitkh when people question power levels. All Im asking is at what point do we leave hype out and focus on feats that show merit. For example Shiva (and the entire hindu pantheon) will never be shown in combat. Due to marvel not wanting to offend religious groups (especially after the thor loss) so how do we measure their power levels?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Skyfather
Don't care about 133 hercs
He didnt over power mjolnirStop being a bitkh when people question power levels. All Im asking is at what point do we leave hype out and focus on feats that show merit. For example Shiva (and the entire hindu pantheon) will never be shown in combat. Due to marvel not wanting to offend religious groups (especially after the thor loss) so how do we measure their power levels?
He created a trans plus tier character. That speaks volumes.
Lol...so this is not a catch?
Why is Thor amazed when the hammer is in Zeus hand?
Lets not troll.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
He stopped its forward momentum. That's it. When he wanted it back he couldn't stop shit. Learn to read
For comparison's sake, look at how Mephisto deals with Mjolnir :
Even if, as some Thor fans have argued, Mephisto is a liar and him slagging and recreating Mjolnir was an illusion. How do you explain him holding the hammer? Thor threw the hammer it hits Mephisto and it DOES NOT return to Thor's hand until after Mephisto lets go of it. They had an entire conversation and Mjolnir wasn't back in Thor's hand until Mephisto threw it back.
Originally posted by zopzop
True he couldn't stop it from going back to THor but Thor was amazed he could even halt it for an instant :For comparison's sake, look at how Mephisto deals with Mjolnir :
Even if, as some Thor fans have argued, Mephisto is a liar and him slagging and recreating Mjolnir was an illusion. How do you explain him holding the hammer? Thor threw the hammer it hits Mephisto and it DOES NOT return to Thor's hand until after Mephisto lets go of it. They had an entire conversation and Mjolnir wasn't back in Thor's hand until Mephisto threw it back.
Thor being shocked is cool and all but its not like zeus had the power to override it like say bor.
Ive always considered ths mephisto scene an illusion
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Skyfather
Don't care about 133 hercs
He didnt over power mjolnirStop being a bitkh when people question power levels. All Im asking is at what point do we leave hype out and focus on feats that show merit. For example Shiva (and the entire hindu pantheon) will never be shown in combat. Due to marvel not wanting to offend religious groups (especially after the thor loss) so how do we measure their power levels?
While a lot would argue Odin is above Zeus in terms of feats, I seem to remember them clashing briefly in Fear Itself. They were portrayed equals in that scene. I think it was the tie-in Journey Into Mystery. The Thor and Hercules Encyclopedia Mythologica lists about 20+ Pantheons of Gods on Earth. I remember it mentioning that each head of a Pantheon are equal in power. This would mean that each Skydads are Odin's equal. Even the ones that are not known.
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Isn't being able to hold up Thors hammer without it dropping to the ground "Overpowering the enchantment" Unless Zeus is worthy, but still. No Herald can catch Mjolnir, no TransiterAnd I mean catch it and hold it up
It's a good feat but look at it subjectively. He is a skyfather so he should have added a new trophy to his war room. But Thor willed it back. If he truly overpowered the enchantment he wouldve palmed abd discarded it like Bor did. Imo he just stopped and held it..although briefly
Just because he is a skyfather dosent mean he can casually overturn the magic of another one. He grabbed and held it,but thor could will it back,he did overpower the enchantment,but not completely,plus I am sure he wasn't going all out there. Odin himself can't even lift the hammer itself, Bor could just have been deemed worthy though,or he is just that powerful,he IS odin's dad after all.
While no herald has outright palmed it,one has batted it aside though,