All Fathers Are Equal

Also this proves the Chaos King was Multiversal and was affecting All Universes

http://m.imgur.com/ieqCQZr?r

Originally posted by Sin I AM
So where would you place "skyfathers" in general? Should for example Zeus be considered his equal despite his lack of feats? Someone mentioned CK controlling him and him knocking Galactus on his ass but iirc and correct me if Im wrong Zeus was amped. Other than a few godhead council meetings and a minor confrontation he had with Odin i dont really have much to go on. People use the owning of Hulk as a bench mark but plenty of trans tiers should be able to replicate said feat. Same could be said of elder gods..some cosmics etc

I think Zeus could probably be considered a low end skyfather. I think the most powerful skyfathers are low end cosmics, but the weaker ones..some aren't even that far above guys like Thanos. Also yeah Zeus was being amped when he fought Galactus. This is why Galactus was shocked when Zeus survived his attack.

Surtur also destroyed a galaxy

Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Surtur also destroyed a galaxy

Under his own power or with the aid of a magical artifact?

Originally posted by Surtur
Under his own power or with the aid of a magical artifact?

Well he is supposed to be around Odin's level so that makes sense I suppose.

And Hera with Zeus power created a pocket universe

Originally posted by Surtur
Well he is supposed to be around Odin's level so that makes sense I suppose.

Off topic does anyone know if the comic with ares and the twilight sword is Canon?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Superman's tier is 'Powerful as he needs to be' tier.

Also known as Ultimate Hero tier, which he alone occupies.

That's Hulk, Thor, and Hyperion tier as well.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
So where would you place "skyfathers" in general? Should for example Zeus be considered his equal despite his lack of feats? Someone mentioned CK controlling him and him knocking Galactus on his ass but iirc and correct me if Im wrong Zeus was amped. Other than a few godhead council meetings and a minor confrontation he had with Odin i dont really have much to go on. People use the owning of Hulk as a bench mark but plenty of trans tiers should be able to replicate said feat. Same could be said of elder gods..some cosmics etc

We knew this was about Zeus AND Hulk. Trans tiers has fought Hulk (and not Pak Hulk either) and failed to come anywhere close to what Zeus did.

Originally posted by carver9
We knew this was about Zeus AND Hulk. Trans tiers has fought Hulk (and not Pak Hulk either) and failed to come anywhere close to what Zeus did.

We?

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Superman's tier is 'Powerful as he needs to be' tier.

Also known as Ultimate Hero tier, which he alone occupies.

It's the most crowded tier in fiction.

Originally posted by krisblaze
This is the tier every main character occupies.

It's the most crowded tier in fiction.

Superman beats skyfathers [Darkseid] under his own power, without extenuating circumstances (i.e. amp, favorable environment etc.). He does this frequently.

Superman beats trans on his own [Despero, even going as far as one-shotting him] under his own power, without extenuating circumstances (i.e. amp, favorable environment etc.). He does this frequently.

The rest of the characters, don't.
The thing is, he isn't portrayed as being outclassed when he moves up tiers. Surfer? Thor? They always are. They're always fighting an uphill battle. Sometimes they manage to be put in a position where they can plot device their way out [i.e. Crunch energies, prayers etc], but they're never portrayed as actually superior to skyfathers.

Superman is.
He needs no special circumstances, tricks or bullshits. He straight up overpowers them.

All Skyfathers are equal, but some Skyfathers are more equal than others.

Originally posted by Magnificent M
All Skyfathers are equal, but some Skyfathers are more equal than others.

Yeah, I'd pretty much say that Zeus/Odin will almost always be portrayed as equalish, with a high chance that the more unknown the other patheon's skyfathers are [i.e. an alien patheon or whatever], the more likely Odin/Zeus will be portrayed as more powerful.

Read more manga.

Or just read some spider-man comics.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Read more manga.

Or just read some spider-man comics.

😛

Spiderman I already said in another thread is the dude, along with Superman and Hulk, who moves around the tiers.

Originally posted by Philosophía
No, it's not.

Superman beats skyfathers [Darkseid] under his own power, without extenuating circumstances (i.e. amp, favorable environment etc.). He does this frequently.

Superman beats trans on his own [Despero, even going as far as one-shotting him] under his own power, without extenuating circumstances (i.e. amp, favorable environment etc.). He does this frequently.

The rest of the characters, don't.
The thing is, he isn't portrayed as being outclassed when he moves up tiers. Surfer? Thor? They always are. They're always fighting an uphill battle. Sometimes they manage to be put in a position where they can plot device their way out [i.e. Crunch energies, prayers etc], but they're never portrayed as actually superior to skyfathers.

Superman is.
He needs no special circumstances, tricks or bullshits. He straight up overpowers them.

Which skyfather has he beaten straight up?

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Thor bear Shiva iirc. Does anyone have that scan? I also read somewhere that in Gaea and Odin were equals

Quote's not working for some reason 😠

At any rate, a hero being as strong as he needs to be is not an attribute that only Superman has. Like you said, both Spider-man and Hulk do this all the time.