Ahsoka Tano vs Old Master Maul

Ahsoka in a seriously close fight. They're both very impressive combatants, but I see Maul faltering, seeing as Maul has been isolated and it's reasonable to assume he's been out of practice for a very long time, where Ahsoka has been in combat far more frequently. SoD Maul would have dispatched the Inquisitiors alone far faster than his current incarnation did, even while being helped.

Maul's loss to Kanan was not due to his nonexistent 'superiority' but to Maul being who he is. He was overconfident, seeing Kanan as someone who would be easily discarded, seeing as he is already inferior in lightsaber combat, Force prowess, and he was blind. He had every reason to believe Kanan would be an easy kill; however, he didn't anticipate Kanan being able to put up any fight, and this made a noticeably reckless attack meant to bisect him which was easily countered by Kanan who was using the Force to sense his surroundings, giving him heightened awareness and improved premonition. In a drawn out duel where they were on equal footing with no prior injuries (namely Maul's surprise attack that blinded Kanan), Maul would slaughter him. It's pretty much the same thing that got him bisected by Kenobi in TPM, only it was his overconfidence rather than being completely off-guard.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Driving him back as in Ahsoka pushing the offensive and Maul backing up.

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The only real movement we see in their fight is Maul and Ahsoka changing positions before she jumps to the top of the stairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krkvOy4OGeY

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Ahsoka in a seriously close fight. They're both very impressive combatants, but I see Maul faltering, seeing as Maul has been isolated and it's reasonable to assume he's been out of practice for a very long time, where Ahsoka has been in combat far more frequently. SoD Maul would have dispatched the Inquisitiors alone far faster than his current incarnation did, even while being helped.

Maul's loss to Kanan was not due to his nonexistent 'superiority' but to Maul being who he is. He was overconfident, seeing Kanan as someone who would be easily discarded, seeing as he is already inferior in lightsaber combat, Force prowess, and he was blind. He had every reason to believe Kanan would be an easy kill; however, he didn't anticipate Kanan being able to put up any fight, and this made a noticeably reckless attack meant to bisect him which was easily countered by Kanan who was using the Force to sense his surroundings, giving him heightened awareness and improved premonition. In a drawn out duel where they were on equal footing with no prior injuries (namely Maul's surprise attack that blinded Kanan), Maul would slaughter him. It's pretty much the same thing that got him bisected by Kenobi in TPM, only it was his overconfidence rather than being completely off-guard.

He seems to have met Ahsoka before and he says the Inquisitor is a fearsome opponent ( likely referring to the GI ) so he's apparently been fighting off the Empire's forces before this point.

GI? You mean EB? And I can see your point there, but if he's such a fierce opponent then why was he unable to kill either of his opponents? He was seemingly stronger than either the FB or SS, though he only survived against Ahsoka and Kanan so long because he spent the majority of the time running away, drawing them to an area of his choosing. He wasn't leagues above the other Inquisitiors, but definitely more impressive.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
GI? You mean EB? And I can see your point there, but if he's such a fierce opponent then why was he unable to kill either of his opponents? He was seemingly stronger than either the FB or SS, though he only survived against Ahsoka and Kanan so long because he spent the majority of the time running away, drawing them to an area of his choosing. He wasn't leagues above the other Inquisitiors, but definitely more impressive.

No I mean GI. Maul wouldn't call EB a fearsome opponent if he could take him on along with the rest of the Inquisitors at the same time.

But the GI wasn't there... That was the EB

Originally posted by Tondemonai
But the GI wasn't there... That was the EB

Yes, I know. I'm saying I believe it's likely Maul has encountered the GI and other Imperial forces in the past whilst on the run and he's referencing the GI when he mentions the "Inquisitor" being a "fearsome opponent."

At this point there isn't enough to go on in terms of who would win a victory.

Originally posted by Syndicate
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The only real movement we see in their fight is Maul and Ahsoka changing positions before she jumps to the top of the stairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krkvOy4OGeY

Originally posted by Beniboybling
From 2:13 onwards Ahsoka is driving forward and Maul is moving back.

Holy shit! You think Ahsoka moving 3 steps forwards shows superiority? I'm f*cking done. Not commenting on any threads with Ahsoka till you all stop being dumb as hell.

It's almost as if in a fight you can give some ground without losing the fight or something. Like as if it's just the best way to respond to someone or something.

Nah.

Lmao, obviously its all speculative at this point.

But considering they are both offensively orientated duelists, Ahsoka seizing the intial offense does suggest superiority.

But I don't think anyone is pretending that's concrete, I certainly am not.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It's almost as if in a fight you can give some ground without losing the fight or something. Like as if it's just the best way to respond to someone or something.

Nah.

It's odd how I can come back to KMC and find one of the few people making sense is Neph mmm

Logic looks good on you my dear.

Been a while, Selenial, how've you been?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Not commenting on any threads with Ahsoka

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Lmao, obviously its all speculative at this point.

But considering they are both offensively orientated duelists, Ahsoka seizing the intial offense does suggest superiority.

But I don't think anyone is pretending that's concrete, I certainly am not.

Originally posted by Selenial
It's odd how I can come back to KMC and find one of the few people making sense is Neph mmm

Logic looks good on you my dear.

Originally posted by Tondemonai
Been a while, Selenial, how've you been?

Comme ci comme ça, have had a busy few months and another few coming up. Started to miss the creative outlet of debating though, so think I'm going to start spending a little more time around here 😄

How's about you?

So after having rewatched the fight I noticed a few things.

1. Maul had no qualms about taking on Kanan and Ahsoka simultaneously.

2. Maul implies Ahsoka has already ran away from him; "running away again, Lady Tano?"

3. The reason Ahsoka left was because mid-duel, Ezra had started up the battlestation. Kanan was distracting Maul while Ahsoka prevented Ezra from ruining shit.

Ahsoka and Maul seemed pretty even in their duel though the only implication we have is that Maul is better. And as usual, the way to prevent him from killing important characters is "overconfidence". Lazy storytelling but there you go.

I'm thinking Vader > Maul >/= Ahsoka. That said the nexus factor shouldn't be ignored, but I'm going to hold off on worrying about until at least one canon source makes mention of them actually mattering.

Thank God ILS returned from his depression.

ESO takes up hella time from debating these days.