Ahsoka Tano vs Old Master Maul

Started by Tondemonai6 pages

Originally posted by Selenial
Comme ci comme ça, have had a busy few months and another few coming up. Started to miss the creative outlet of debating though, so think I'm going to start spending a little more time around here 😄

How's about you?

Doing pretty well, generally. Not in such a shitty place anymore, but not in a good one either, so I'd say that's a solid meh, like not meh as in not great but meh as it could be better but was a lot worse. Maybe even a solid good, tbh.

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
All this sounds like 'after-the-fact' reasoning. There is absolutely nothing on screen to indicate that Maul fought "recklessly." He was just as confident about thinking he could take Ahsoka and Kanan at the same time.He displayed equal confidence prior to facing Pre Vizla but performed just fine in that duel.

Had he charged blindly towards Kanan only to be tripped or something, yeah, but we actually see them clashing sabers for a bit only for Kanan to use a move we've seen from both Ahsoka (see Ahsoka's duel with the 5th brother and 7th sister) and Vader (see Vader vs Kanan and Ezra). Thus, what you're really arguing here is that "There's no way Darth Maul could lose to some random no-name Jedi Knight legitimately!" Unfortunately, bad writing doesn't permit us to disregard what happened. I'm sure that once another writer gets a hold of this (likely in a novelization), you'll get all sorts of justifications that will support your view (i.e. Maul was just testing Kanan, Maul needed an excuse to leave before Vader arrived, Maul hadn't eaten in days, etc).

For the time being, however, unless Filoni comes back and has Maul say "Arrrgh, if only I were 20 years younger!" or "Had I only taken my imperial flu shot before that duel!", it is what it is and anything else is baseless conjecture.

Honestly, it seems clear to me that Filoni loves his characters and wants to make them look good by jobbing well-known powerhouses. I expect to see more of this as the series continues. Don't be surprised if he has Ezra "beating" Maul or pulling a Galen Mareck and going toe to toe with Vader.

He lunged pretty carelessly at Kanan, who he very visibly didn't assume to know when or from which direction he was to attack. He lunged very recklessly, traded some blows, and then, most likely believing Kanan to be using the sound of his lightsaber to anticipate where his strikes will be coming from, throws a punch that gives Kanan the opportunity to throw him to the edge and kick Maul off.

Ahsoka outclasses Maul. She held her own against Vader, and maul can't defeat a blind kanan... Please

Originally posted by ahsoka2001
Ahsoka outclasses Maul. She held her own against Vader, and maul can't defeat a blind kanan... Please

Originally posted by ahsoka2001
Ahsoka outclasses Maul. She held her own against Vader, and maul can't defeat a blind kanan... Please
Welcome to KMC. 🙂

Maul wins. 🙂

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Nice find.

I got it from some CV dudes.

Those guys who can't form coherent sentences, amirite Freshest. 😎

Originally posted by ILS
I got it from some CV dudes.

Those guys who can't form coherent sentences, amirite Freshest. 😎


What do you expect? It's ComicVine, kek.

Originally posted by ILS
I got it from some CV dudes.

Those guys who can't form coherent sentences, amirite Freshest. 😎


Did you get it from someone who can't write a complete sentence, though?

I'd say Wollfmyth is borderline.

Kanan is Vader-tier.

Originally posted by Nephthys
As much as I love ragging on Maul. I actually agree with Syndicate's assessment. Getting a hand on an opponent and throwing them isn't that hard to do, especially when one guy was in a heightened state and the other isn't taking his opponent seriously.

Neph's only saying that because if he says this made Maul look like a tool, he'd have to admit Zannah tripping over a hole makes her look even worse.

But it did make Maul look like a tool.

Just like...

... all the other times he's hilariously ****ed up through incompetence?

Zannah. The correct answer is Zannah. You were close with incompetence tho.

Dang.

Originally posted by ILS
Maul wins. 🙂

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Damn, we'll have to wank Ahsoka harder then. 🙂