Originally posted by Adam Grimes
TIL Quan is still unable to understand movies. Nothing new, moving on.Tony wrecks here.
Remember, when IM beat Hulk, it was only due to "context", but when Cap beat IM, context be damned.
Funny thing too, there was a lot more going on with the IM/Cap/Buck fight than the IM/Hulk fight.
Originally posted by RobtardCap held back and let him live. No one was mind controlled and came out of it. Tony was the most pissed off guy here. My guy killed his mom and he had to take it. Bucky and Cap won. Cap spared his ass and left his shield after he finished the fight. Stew on reality.
Remember, when IM beat Hulk, it was only due to "context", but when Cap beat IM, context be damned.Funny thing too, there was a lot more going on with the IM/Cap/Buck fight, then the IM/Hulk fight.
Originally posted by RobtardHe was the one who wouldn't stop and started the altercation off with a cheapshot. He had to be put down. His poor mother got the business from the WS. Again no one was mind controlled and came out of it.
TIL: Tony wasn't holding back when he basically told Steve "stay down or else" after downing him.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh Bruce, I was going easy on you, but now you're just asking for the kind of licks IM gives to Cap.
Please I am the one going easy on you
Originally posted by Darth Thor So there's no context to fights now in this forum? The dream of every troll/fanboy (until of course context suits them that is).
So you just admitted to being like Quan...
thing is though , when he trolls I just laugh
Originally posted by Darth Thor LOL IM's miles more powerful than Cap. He stops Nukes for frigging sake. There's nothing fanboy about just stating the fact that IM is in another league to Cap. Nothing at all.
any yet Stark didn't even use those missiles... even so if he did, Cap's shield has proven time and again how durable it is..
Originally posted by Darth Thor Only a fanboy would see it as such, because "hey Cap won in the end after a big distraction in his favor, and after fighting 2 on 1 against Tony for half the fight, and in Cap's own movie, so Cap must be more powerful!" LMAO[/QUOTE/Said it already, don't have to be a fanboy to use the act7ual screen feats of a film.... LMMFAO... LMMFAO...
[QUOTE=15734877]Originally posted by Darth Thor I haven't gotten around to seeing the movie a second time yet. So if you have a point to make about the airport fight, just make it, instead of trolling.
Calm down, you troll , I have already made my points regarding the airport fight scenes.. when you see the film again, if you ever saw it, remember to stay awake during the important stuff...
Originally posted by Darth Thor Stop with the fanboyism. Please just stop and make some sensible arguments here. What has Cap got on Tony? How can Cap even touch Tony in an outdoor battle? Can you answer any of these questions directly?
LMMFAO.. quite being an idiot you troll.. It's not fanboyism when actual screen feats are being used... Oh I have already.. you the one who has never seen the film hahahahaha...
Originally posted by Darth Thor Yes, do you have any answer for this question?That's not an answer. Try again.
This only works on someone who has been on kmc for a few days... so YOU TRY AGAIN....
QUOTE=15734877]Originally posted by Darth Thor Again you've not answered the question. In what category is Cap above IM?
Maybe you're in a round about complicated way trying to say Cap is superior in H2H? And yet Tony's computer was still able to analyze those moves and beat Cap down. Not to mention in an outdoor setting, IM can just fight from a distance.
So again whose butt hurt? LMAO[/QUOTE]
Oh yes I have,,, you just stubborn to want to say Cap won the fight... Cap is since ya know he beat the shit out of Stark, that is not deniable.. It happened... Any yet after Tony beat down Cap, please tell me.. Did Cap stay down? Did Tony finished him off being his missiles? or did Cap get back up and proceed to beat him down even more??? go watch the movie, this isn't hard... Cap won...You are butthurt LMMFAO..
Anyone can say LMAO ..
Originally posted by Darth Thor Like I said, if you have a point to make, then make it. Stop with the trolling. But I'm pretty sure I'd remember if Cap laid any significant hit on IM. But he sent Ant- Man/Giant Man on him instead.
Not trolling you piece of garbage... I have made my points, you just trolling because you know Cap won and don't want to admit it,...
Yeah Now I know you never even saw the film.... You are clearly forgetting Cap and Bucky tag teaming Tony after he found out about Bucky killing his parents.. You are also clearly forgetting Cap taking it to Tony after Tony knocked down Bucky... And yes Stark was able to match Cap in h2h after he copied his moves, however, I will ask for the second time and tell me instead of being a trolling dodger, Did Tony kill Cap?
Originally posted by Darth Thor No, really... You are.
The only troll is you and you alone.. You are the one in deniable I am just using the screen feats unlike you, who have never ever seen the film ..
Originally posted by Darth Thor Again you've completely avoided the point, which was that Cap told Bucky to run from IM. Because he knew him and Bucky were outgunned.So wait, you think Tony needs help for Panther, War Machine and Spider-Man to take down Cap? HAHAHA... Yeah you're definitely the dumb one here.
Okay shit for brains... unfortunately, I am not and have not.... once again go see the film if you any guts... Prior the whole fight starting , Cap tried to talk and he didn't listen. then the fight started... You whining about Cap was outgunned, yet Tony had to have help in the form of Widow, T'Challa, etc. so pelase stop with the bullshit. that will not fly here...
Originally posted by Darth Thor You really should because you're making an ass out of yourself.Don't worry Quanchi's got your back!
The only person doing that is you. you pea brain... You just continue to be butthurt over BVS being shit and that Cap is the better film..
QUOTE=15734877]Originally posted by Darth Thor So basically what you're saying is, it took both Cap and Bucky to fight off and eventually defeat IM in a tight environment. So really 1 on 1 Cap doesn't stand a chance against IM.
You see, you can see the truth 👆[/QUOTE]
Remember if you actually use your brain that both Cap and Tony had teammates, of course you have forgotten that..Oh and who followed Tony when Cap and Bucky were I the ship going to look for Zemo..
since you have obviously never seen the film
Spoiler:
Tony AND Rhodey and Sam were flying towards Cap/Bucky before Vision tok out his own teammate
Originally posted by Darth Thor I take it you're just trolling now right?You admit it took a distraction from Bucky for Cap to get the win, yet you claim that wasn't needed, and you're completely denying that Tony was about to win before that distraction?
Denial can be a wonderful thing. Just ask Quanchi.
Yes you should ask him yourself because you are exactly LIKE HIM... Tell me then if you actually saw the film, How exactly was tony about to win???
Honestly though, even War Machine would beat down Cap 1 v 1, and you know it, deep down you know it, but your fanboyism if fighting against it LMAO
Originally posted by Darth Thor I suggest you watch First Avenger again, until you get the point of the line "I can do this all day."So you think Cap > Tony > Hulk? facepalm
Don't bring fanboyism into the threads. It's ok that your favorite character is simply outclassed against Iron Man. Just as Iron Man is outclassed against the likes of Thor/Hulk/Vision.
no need to rewatch but you should... if the screen feats so say ...not fanboyism you troll, I'm just using the screen feats which is my right to do so.. bye bye buthurt boy....
Originally posted by quanchi112
They bested Tony. Fact. Your opinion on why isn't a fact. After all these years you won't ever get it.
Everything I said was a 100% factual. Tell me which one of these points isn't
1. IM arm was injured going into the fight
2. IM armor had already taken loads of damage throughout the movie
3. Bucky had the aid of Cap in the fight
4. IM didn't even want to fight Cap, he initially tried to restrain him not try and kill him
A. Remember the scene where Stark puts the hand cuffs on him? Why do that when you couldn't open fire with missiles and lasers right from the jump i.e. IM was holding back with Cap
5. IM was in an enclosed area which doesn't suit him the best for a fight
6. IM was emotionally compromised and wasn't fighting smart.
A. The clear example of this is, notice how once Stark gets his system to study his movies he immediately turns the tide of the fight. Why would he have not done that from the jump instead of waiting till after he'd taken a beating? He wouldn't. Stark is a hyper genius. Leagues above Cap in intelligence.
7. Once he turned the tied he sent Cap to the ground and he was visibly wobbly and stunned.
8. He could've pressed said advantage and ended the fight. He could've just continued to blast him till he was either KO'd or dead. Instead he told him to stay down and started to monologue
9. Bucky distracts IM and allows Cap to pull a maneuver
Now which of the above aren't factual. List them.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi1. Iron man started the fight, dolt.
Everything I said was a 100% factual. Tell me which one of these points isn't1. IM arm was injured going into the fight
2. IM armor had already taken loads of damage throughout the movie
3. Bucky had the aid of Cap in the fight
4. IM didn't even want to fight Cap, he initially tried to restrain him not try and kill him
A. Remember the scene where Stark puts the hand cuffs on him? Why do that when you couldn't open fire with missiles and lasers right from the jump i.e. IM was holding back with Cap
5. IM was in an enclosed area which doesn't suit him the best for a fight
6. IM was emotionally compromised and wasn't fighting smart.
A. The clear example of this is, notice how once Stark gets his system to study his movies he immediately turns the tide of the fight. Why would he have not done that from the jump instead of waiting till after he'd taken a beating? He wouldn't. Stark is a hyper genius. Leagues above Cap in intelligence.
7. Once he turned the tied he sent Cap to the ground and he was visibly wobbly and stunned.
8. He could've pressed said advantage and ended the fight. He could've just continued to blast him till he was either KO'd or dead. Instead he told him to stay down and started to monologue
9. Bucky distracts IM and allows Cap to pull a maneuverNow which of the above aren't factual. List them.
2. The other characters were also attacked the entire movie. WS more so than anyone but somehow it only matters to Iman.
3. I never said otherwise. It was a team effort.
4. Bucky and Cap didn't want to fight Iman either.
5. Iman started the fight so you wanting to dismiss the area is just pathetic. They wrecked his suit.
6. They were all emotionally compromised and that's your opinion. That isn't a fact. Learn the difference, Virgin.
7. It was a back and forth battle. Iman lost.
8. Speculation. Cap won and could have killed him. He was neutralized. Period.
9. So ? The team beat Iman. That's a fact. Bucky and Cap didn't want to fight. Bucky tried to leave the area. Iman was upset Bucky killed his mom. Get over it and blame Hydra.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I'm a big ass troll, and a big ass fanboy. I make Quanchi proud.
Yeah I get that.
So let me get this straight.. You've got nothing to add about the airport fight, even though you claimed I missed some big Cap vs IM fight there, you are incapable of giving me one category where Cap is superior to IM, incapable of giving me a single way Cap can hit IM in an outdoor scenario, and continue to ignore that IM had Cap beat first in a tight environment scenario where it was 2 on 1 against him .. Have I missed anything?
Oh yeah and the only direct answer you gave was when you claimed missiles and rockets can't do anything because of Cap's shield, despite WS sending Cap flying with a rocket in the movie "Captain America:The Winter Soldier" which I suggest you actually watch, instead of just staring at the Blu-Ray cover.
You have any actual arguments to make or have any direct answers to any of the questions I asked, then get back to me. In the meantime continue making an ass out of yourself 👆
Originally posted by Silent Master
Almost as silly as thinking Ozy beats WS.
Nah, at least they're both street levelers. IM on the other hand is like mid meta (in the movies, he's high meta-low herald in the comics).
So fanboying over Cap beating IM is far more silly.
Although I have to say that the armor that Tony used in the airport fight is not the same as the one he used against Cap and Bucky in the end. Aren't people wondering why Tony was able to get to Russia at a fast time? After the airport fight, Tony talks to Black Widow inside a building. Then he went to the Raft to get info from Falcon on where Cap and Bucky are going. Tony then goes to Russia followed by Black Panther in a jet. Cap and Bucky just arrived there but Tony suddenly appeared. And this is despite the fact Cap and Bucky were the first people to leave the airport. The armor Tony might have used a lighter but faster flight capability armor. The armor might not even be as durable as the one he used on the airport fight. It may not even have the same armaments. But this is speculation on my part. Only the Russo Bros can answer this. For now, we have to face the fact Tony got beat by Cap and Bucky. Although I'm willing to admit Cap and Bucky walked out bloodied and battered after the fight 😛
Originally posted by Igniz
Although I have to say that the armor that Tony used in the airport fight is not the same as the one he used against Cap and Bucky in the end. Aren't people wondering why Tony was able to get to Russia at a fast time? After the airport fight, Tony talks to Black Widow inside a building. Then he went to the Raft to get info from Falcon on where Cap and Bucky are going. Tony then goes to Russia followed by Black Panther in a jet. Cap and Bucky just arrived there but Tony suddenly appeared. And this is despite the fact Cap and Bucky were the first people to leave the airport. The armor Tony might have used a lighter but faster flight capability armor. The armor might not even be as durable as the one he used on the airport fight. It may not even have the same armaments. But this is speculation on my part. Only the Russo Bros can answer this. For now, we have to face the fact Tony got beat by Cap and Bucky. Although I'm willing to admit Cap and Bucky walked out bloodied and battered after the fight 😛
Well apparently BruceSkywalker saw a special edition of the film where Cap kicks IM's butt at the airport LMAO
Originally posted by quanchi112They won pursuant to circumstances. Just like how Spock and Uhura wrecked Khan pursuant to circumstances. In an open area and with Tony downloading both combatants' fighting style from the start, it's a different story.
For ****s sake Dt is such a fanboy the movie makes it clear on hand to hand fighting Cap is head and shoulders superior to Iron Man. He acts like Cap isn't superior in any category. He's an idiot. Fact is the team won. Your guy lost. I told you all so. I'm smart you're stupid.
Originally posted by quanchi112
1. Iron man started the fight, dolt.2. The other characters were also attacked the entire movie. WS more so than anyone but somehow it only matters to Iman.
3. I never said otherwise. It was a team effort.
4. Bucky and Cap didn't want to fight Iman either.
5. Iman started the fight so you wanting to dismiss the area is just pathetic. They wrecked his suit.
6. They were all emotionally compromised and that's your opinion. That isn't a fact. Learn the difference, Virgin.
7. It was a back and forth battle. Iman lost.
8. Speculation. Cap won and could have killed him. He was neutralized. Period.
9. So ? The team beat Iman. That's a fact. Bucky and Cap didn't want to fight. Bucky tried to leave the area. Iman was upset Bucky killed his mom. Get over it and blame Hydra.
A typical tard like response from the biggest tard on the forum. Holy shit those were pathetic disingenuous answers. Good God
1. Didn't ask you who started the fight, I said IM arm vas injured going into the fight. I know basic English is a big struggle for you, but try and keep up here.
2. Again a blatant reading comprehension failure. I was stating facts YOU SAID WEREN'T facts. I never mentioned whether other people weren't attacked throughout the movie you buffoon. I simply stated the fact that IM suit was had taken punishment throughout the movie and was clearly not as fresh as a daisy.
3. I accept your concession, what I said was 100% factual, AGAIN
4. Again, the 3rd moronic answer in such a short time. I don't care who if they did or didn't want to fight him. I stated IM was holding back against Cap. I cited the example of him trying to restrain him, instead of going for the kill. I don't care if you believe others were, all I said was IM was holding back against Cap and that's a fact.
5. 4th comprehension failure out of 5 questions. This is getting pathetic. I never said who did or didn't start the fight. That wasn't my factual statement. My factual statement was, IM would be better suited to fighting outside in an open area, and that is a 100% true.
6. 5th failure out of 6 statements of fact. IM was absolutely emotionally compromised. Again, I don't care if others were or weren't (there certainly weren't on the level of IM), all I said was, IM was emotionally compromised and that is a fact. Nobody but you disputes this.
7. 6th failure out of 7. What I said was a 100% true, AGAIN
8.. The 7th moronic failure out of 8. Again, there is no speculation there. Cap was stunned VISIBLY wobbling and struggling to stand up and straight. He had no shield present. What exactly would he have done if IM just continued to blast him, even before he struggled to his feet? That isn't speculation that is a fact that IM could've kept on blasting him, and choose not to.
9. I accept your concession here. You agreed with exactly what I said happened. He was distracted in the end, which turned the tide. That is all I said
Well congrats you conceded 2 points as facts, and went moronic mode on the other 7.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
They won pursuant to circumstances. Just like how Spock and Uhura wrecked Khan pursuant to circumstances. In an open area and with Tony downloading both combatants' fighting style from the start, it's a different story.
Originally posted by Dark-KenshinThey won a fair fight in which both sides were armed. Khan crash landed wasn't armed and was beating Spock. The enterprise crew also teleported her down as well.
They won pursuant to circumstances. Just like how Spock and Uhura wrecked Khan pursuant to circumstances. In an open area and with Tony downloading both combatants' fighting style from the start, it's a different story.
Khan also had them all defeated earlier in the film when he was armed with ease. Film facts >>>your speculation. I always go with the film facts. You people don't hence why you're fanboys and I'm an objective debater.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiHere is you being mocked by everyone for not grasping the obvious. Everyone is making fun of you for being an idiot.
A typical tard like response from the biggest tard on the forum. Holy shit those were pathetic disingenuous answers. Good God1. Didn't ask you who started the fight, I said IM arm vas injured going into the fight. I know basic English is a big struggle for you, but try and keep up here.
2. Again a blatant reading comprehension failure. I was stating facts YOU SAID WEREN'T facts. I never mentioned whether other people weren't attacked throughout the movie you buffoon. I simply stated the fact that IM suit was had taken punishment throughout the movie and was clearly not as fresh as a daisy.
3. I accept your concession, what I said was 100% factual, AGAIN
4. Again, the 3rd moronic answer in such a short time. I don't care who if they did or didn't want to fight him. I stated IM was holding back against Cap. I cited the example of him trying to restrain him, instead of going for the kill. I don't care if you believe others were, all I said was IM was holding back against Cap and that's a fact.
5. 4th comprehension failure out of 5 questions. This is getting pathetic. I never said who did or didn't start the fight. That wasn't my factual statement. My factual statement was, IM would be better suited to fighting outside in an open area, and that is a 100% true.
6. 5th failure out of 6 statements of fact. IM was absolutely emotionally compromised. Again, I don't care if others were or weren't (there certainly weren't on the level of IM), all I said was, IM was emotionally compromised and that is a fact. Nobody but you disputes this.
7. 6th failure out of 7. What I said was a 100% true, AGAIN
8.. The 7th moronic failure out of 8. Again, there is no speculation there. Cap was stunned VISIBLY wobbling and struggling to stand up and straight. He had no shield present. What exactly would he have done if IM just continued to blast him, even before he struggled to his feet? That isn't speculation that is a fact that IM could've kept on blasting him, and choose not to.
9. I accept your concession here. You agreed with exactly what I said happened. He was distracted in the end, which turned the tide. That is all I said
Well congrats you conceded 2 points as facts, and went moronic mode on the other 7.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=597770&pagenumber=118
1. So Iman started the fight. He's an idiot according to you. He lost also.
2. Neither were the others. It counts for them all not just Iron Man. You're so biased.
3. The team won your guy lost. Glad you accept it.
4. Same goes for them. You can't just say he held back when they did the same and ignore the fact IMan started the fight with a cheapshot on Cap. Goes both ways. You're just making excuses when the facts had them win over Iman. Cry more.
5. Your opinion. Both WS and Cap fight just fine in an open area. Your opinion of what would happen is speculation. We have what actually occurred. Did I an bring WS in when they fought in the airport an open area ? 😂
6. So what ? Emotions spill over as did Cap's. Everyone involved was but its Man's fault he can't take it. Bucky killed his parents get over it. Bucky also walked away. Tough pill to swallow for Iman fans. My WS killed your guys mom. 😂
7. You don't know what an opinion is and what a fact is.
8. Speculation. I know what did happen not your coulda, woulda, shoulda fanboyism. Cap could have killed him he didn't. He pitied Iman. Poor guys parents were brutally killed by his best buddy.
9. They won because they were better. They are highly skilled warriors who beat Iman. They held back and still won. Not my fault Iman gets worked up like a pansy. Best part is WS killed his mommy and he's still alive. **** yeah.
Team won. WS is still on the loose. Iman also conceded he was wrong then got his ass kicked after he realized who killed his mom. Great film.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Here is you being mocked by everyone for not grasping the obvious. Everyone is making fun of you for being an idiot.http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=597770&pagenumber=118
1. So Iman started the fight. He's an idiot according to you. He lost also.
2. Neither were the others. It counts for them all not just Iron Man. You're so biased.
3. The team won your guy lost. Glad you accept it.
4. Same goes for them. You can't just say he held back when they did the same and ignore the fact IMan started the fight with a cheapshot on Cap. Goes both ways. You're just making excuses when the facts had them win over Iman. Cry more.
5. Your opinion. Both WS and Cap fight just fine in an open area. Your opinion of what would happen is speculation. We have what actually occurred. Did I an bring WS in when they fought in the airport an open area ? 😂
6. So what ? Emotions spill over as did Cap's. Everyone involved was but its Man's fault he can't take it. Bucky killed his parents get over it. Bucky also walked away. Tough pill to swallow for Iman fans. My WS killed your guys mom. 😂
7. You don't know what an opinion is and what a fact is.
8. Speculation. I know what did happen not your coulda, woulda, shoulda fanboyism. Cap could have killed him he didn't. He pitied Iman. Poor guys parents were brutally killed by his best buddy.
9. They won because they were better. They are highly skilled warriors who beat Iman. They held back and still won. Not my fault Iman gets worked up like a pansy. Best part is WS killed his mommy and he's still alive. **** yeah.
Team won. WS is still on the loose. Iman also conceded he was wrong then got his ass kicked after he realized who killed his mom. Great film.
I love how you try and post a link to a thread where point blank say he could be enhanced, and even reference comics/heart etc. I'm the one who brought up comics and said that possible. That still doesn't change that nothing was ever said in the movie one way or another. That is all I ever said, and it's 100% true.
Now back to your idiocy:
I accept ALL your concessions on each of my points. Each one of the things I listed are factual, you claimed they weren't, and then came back with totally irrelevant stuff as a response. Stuff that had nothing to do with the facts I stated. I accept your concession on all grounds, per the norm.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiThe point is everyone mocked you for the clear evidence he was enhanced. He's outrunning cars and hanging with enhanced humans. His movement speed, etc. makes it clear. You said he has heart. 😂
I love how you try and post a link to a thread where point blank say he could be enhanced, and even reference comics/heart etc. I'm the one who brought up comics and said that possible. That still doesn't change that nothing was ever said in the movie one way or another. That is all I ever said, and it's 100% true.Now back to your idiocy:
I accept ALL your concessions on each of my points. Each one of the things I listed are factual, you claimed they weren't, and then came back with totally irrelevant stuff as a response. Stuff that had nothing to do with the facts I stated. I accept your concession on all grounds, per the norm.
Everyone mocked you. You don't have a functioning brain.
You can't rebut any of it. That's a concession. Iman lost while they held back and won. Poor guy was on his backside while his parents murder left. Again. He failed the entire movie trying to bring the WS aka his mother's killer in. 😂
Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is everyone mocked you for the clear evidence he was enhanced. He's outrunning cars and hanging with enhanced humans. His movement speed, etc. makes it clear. You said he has heart. 😂Everyone mocked you. You don't have a functioning brain.
You can't rebut any of it. That's a concession. Iman lost while they held back and won. Poor guy was on his backside while his parents murder left. Again. He failed the entire movie trying to bring the WS aka his mother's killer in. 😂
Holy shit you're dumb... he has heart LMAO... so you have no idea about comics then... Damn this is pretty bad. If you have no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned the heart... just leave the discussion for the adults then.