Cap and Winter Soldier V Iron Man

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Originally posted by Robtard
The scene even showed us the disbelief in WS' face that someone could so easily overpower his bionic arm, but yeah, chimpy's going to argue that SM and WS are the same in strength. Nonsense like that is the reason no one takes him seriously.
They are peers and acting as if WS can't hurt him is being silly. Hey if you want to pretend Spiderman beat him feel free.

TIL: Bucky is Spider-Man's equal in every facet

So cap won in the movie... Why is this a thing?

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Bucky is Spider-Man's equal in every facet
I didn't say that I just mean peers in terms of fighting. Quit misinterpreting what I'm saying because you're unable to grasp an actual point.

TIL: Spider-Man is as skilled in combat as Bucky, apparently

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Spider-Man is as skilled in combat as Bucky, apparently
As a fighter they are peers. They do not use the same skill sets, kiddo.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So IM beat Hulk then right? Because a loss is a loss. Context be damned right?

This isn't the context v forum , ask Raz for to make it hahahahahaha.... Well yes Tony did beat Hulk.. Yo are aware of what a screen feat is, are you not???

Originally posted by Darth Thor You're the one actually agreeing with Quan's trolling on this 😬

I get everyone has a favorite between IM and Cap, but you should be able to have a favorite without going all fanboy saying "he's the most powerful because he's my favorite!"

Nope that is you and you alone.. Don't have to go all fanboy since I am using the freaking screen feats and they speak volumes over your scripting... I have seen the film 3 times already but please enlighten me and what happened during the airport fight scenes when Tony and Cap fought, sine you know those were wide open spaces.

And what feat does Cap have that puts him above IM in any category? Cap has improved with every film... second after all he did beat the living shit out of Stark and even after Stark got in some great licks, those licks did not put Cap down... We get that you so very butthurt about it...

Originally posted by Darth Thor And what effective blow did Cap land on IM at the airport?

Never ever ask a question with a question that clearly shows your ignorance since I ask you first regarding the airport scenes..

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Originally posted by Darth Thor eah they did have effective teamwork:

Cap: "Bucky RUN!"

lmao They both knew they were outgunned.

Man you are so frigging dumb... the whole point of them getting to the chopper was to go find Zemo because Cap knew Tony would not believe him... Also were you falling asleep during the airport scenes because before the whole fight started , Cap was telling Tony the truth about how Bucky was innocent, but of course Tony did not believe him and then Sam asked Cap "What do we do? Cap then replies we fight.. Also to continue with how dumb and ignorant you are , if they were so outgunned then how come Tony need needed help from Widow, T'Challa, Rhodey etc....

Originally posted by Darth Thor Bloodlusted against Cap? LMAO

If he was bloodlusted against Cap then he would have shot down multiple missiles and rockets when he was flying up to chase Bucky. Would have avalanched Cap in.

Also how did he lose "fair and square" to Cap when he's the one who had Cap beat until Bucky distracted him? A Bucky who would be dead if IM had really wanted.

JUST STOP,.. JUST STOP.. Man you are so damn dumb and ignorant.... Look into the recesses that is your brain and if you have a brain , then think back to a time during the film where Cap, Bucky, Black Panther who is in the shadows watching and listening and Stark are in the Hydra hideout.. Now keep remembering the scene.. Zemo shows footage of Bucky killing Tony's parents in cold blood... Cap admits he knew but kept quiet to spare tony... Stark then backhands Cap to the floor and proceeds to fight Bucky .. It was a good fight with both getting in good blows, finally Stark shoots the blast from the arc reactor , thus knocking Bucky down and destroying his metal bionic arm..... Cap and Tony then fight and Cap clearly is beating the shit out of him, how you cannot see that I have no idea... ONLY after Tony copies his moves is Stark able to compete and he knocks down Steve and tells him to stay down... If you recall the trailer, Cap says "I can do this all day" And yes Bucky distracts Tony Tony long enough for Cap to put the finishing moves on him, but still Cap clearly won the fight...

Originally posted by Darth Thor Have you not seen the first Cap movie? He only says that when he's losing. It's a show of his spirit that he'll keep fighting even though he's getting badly beaten.

I own both First Avenger and Winter Soldier... That is a testament to show just how great Cap is....

Originally posted by Darth Thor It comes from your own logic. If only the result counts, then who cares if Hulk was distracted, IM KO'd him fair and square right?

My logic is clear as I have actually watched and paid attention to fight scenes and what is being said.. You on the other hand are butthurt over something.. Recall how it was said in Age of Ultron how both Tony and Banner created the Hulkbuster armor.. Remember Tony was trying to through to Hulk when they were fighting and then he had no choice but to get him to revert back

I'm unclear what your stance here is Bruce.. Are you of the opinion that Cap can beat IM in a neutral setting with both at their best? Shit, even in the same confined area?

In an equal fight with both Cap and Iron man being in a healthy state of mind and both have their best equipment , means Iron Man having his best suit which is Mark 45 , Iron man will kill Cap 10/10 .

Yeah i just said it.

Oh Bruce, I was going easy on you, but now you're just asking for the kind of licks IM gives to Cap.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
This isn't the context v forum , ask Raz for to make it hahahahahaha.... Well yes Tony did beat Hulk.. Yo are aware of what a screen feat is, are you not???

So there's no context to fights now in this forum? The dream of every troll/fanboy (until of course context suits them that is).

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Nope that is you and you alone.. Don't have to go all fanboy since I am using the freaking screen feats and they speak volumes over your scripting... I have seen the film 3 times already but please enlighten me and what happened during the airport fight scenes when Tony and Cap fought, sine you know those were wide open spaces.

LOL IM's miles more powerful than Cap. He stops Nukes for frigging sake. There's nothing fanboy about just stating the fact that IM is in another league to Cap. Nothing at all.

Only a fanboy would see it as such, because "hey Cap won in the end after a big distraction in his favor, and after fighting 2 on 1 against Tony for half the fight, and in Cap's own movie, so Cap must be more powerful!" LMAO

I haven't gotten around to seeing the movie a second time yet. So if you have a point to make about the airport fight, just make it, instead of trolling.

Stop with the fanboyism. Please just stop and make some sensible arguments here. What has Cap got on Tony? How can Cap even touch Tony in an outdoor battle? Can you answer any of these questions directly?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
And what feat does Cap have that puts him above IM in any category?

Yes, do you have any answer for this question?

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Cap has improved with every film...

That's not an answer. Try again.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
second after all he did beat the living shit out of Stark and even after Stark got in some great licks, those licks did not put Cap down... We get that you so very butthurt about it...

Again you've not answered the question. In what category is Cap above IM?

Maybe you're in a round about complicated way trying to say Cap is superior in H2H? And yet Tony's computer was still able to analyze those moves and beat Cap down. Not to mention in an outdoor setting, IM can just fight from a distance.

So again whose butt hurt? LMAO

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Never ever ask a question with a question that clearly shows your ignorance since I ask you first regarding the airport scenes..

Like I said, if you have a point to make, then make it. Stop with the trolling. But I'm pretty sure I'd remember if Cap laid any significant hit on IM. But he sent Ant- Man/Giant Man on him instead.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Man you are so frigging dumb...

No, really... You are.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
the whole point of them getting to the chopper was to go find Zemo because Cap knew Tony would not believe him... Also were you falling asleep during the airport scenes because before the whole fight started , Cap was telling Tony the truth about how Bucky was innocent, but of course Tony did not believe him and then Sam asked Cap "What do we do? Cap then replies we fight.. Also to continue with how dumb and ignorant you are , if they were so outgunned then how come Tony need needed help from Widow, T'Challa, Rhodey etc....

Again you've completely avoided the point, which was that Cap told Bucky to run from IM. Because he knew him and Bucky were outgunned.

So wait, you think Tony needs help for Panther, War Machine and Spider-Man to take down Cap? HAHAHA... Yeah you're definitely the dumb one here.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
JUST STOP,.. JUST STOP..

You really should because you're making an ass out of yourself.

Don't worry Quanchi's got your back!

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
Man you are so damn dumb and ignorant.... Look into the recesses that is your brain and if you have a brain , then think back to a time during the film where Cap, Bucky, Black Panther who is in the shadows watching and listening and Stark are in the Hydra hideout.. Now keep remembering the scene.. Zemo shows footage of Bucky killing Tony's parents in cold blood... Cap admits he knew but kept quiet to spare tony... Stark then backhands Cap to the floor and proceeds to fight Bucky .. It was a good fight with both getting in good blows, finally Stark shoots the blast from the arc reactor , thus knocking Bucky down and destroying his metal bionic arm..... Cap and Tony then fight and Cap clearly is beating the shit out of him, how you cannot see that I have no idea... ONLY after Tony copies his moves is Stark able to compete and he knocks down Steve and tells him to stay down...

So basically what you're saying is, it took both Cap and Bucky to fight off and eventually defeat IM in a tight environment. So really 1 on 1 Cap doesn't stand a chance against IM.

You see, you can see the truth 👆

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
If you recall the trailer, Cap says "I can do this all day" And yes Bucky distracts Tony Tony long enough for Cap to put the finishing moves on him, but still Cap clearly won the fight...

I take it you're just trolling now right?

You admit it took a distraction from Bucky for Cap to get the win, yet you claim that wasn't needed, and you're completely denying that Tony was about to win before that distraction?

Denial can be a wonderful thing. Just ask Quanchi.

Honestly though, even War Machine would beat down Cap 1 v 1, and you know it, deep down you know it, but your fanboyism if fighting against it LMAO

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
I own both First Avenger and Winter Soldier... That is a testament to show just how great Cap is....

I suggest you watch First Avenger again, until you get the point of the line "I can do this all day."

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
My logic is clear as I have actually watched and paid attention to fight scenes and what is being said.. You on the other hand are butthurt over something.. Recall how it was said in Age of Ultron how both Tony and Banner created the Hulkbuster armor.. Remember Tony was trying to through to Hulk when they were fighting and then he had no choice but to get him to revert back

So you think Cap > Tony > Hulk? facepalm

Don't bring fanboyism into the threads. It's ok that your favorite character is simply outclassed against Iron Man. Just as Iron Man is outclassed against the likes of Thor/Hulk/Vision.

DT's true colors have been exposed. He's a butthurt fanboy whose upset over the outcome of Civil War. I tried telling the idiot. It feels so good to have been right because well I'm smarter than he is. It doesn't take much for the force awakens hater.

Originally posted by DrDeadpool
In an equal fight with both Cap and Iron man being in a healthy state of mind and both have their best equipment , means Iron Man having his best suit which is Mark 45 , Iron man will kill Cap 10/10 .

Yeah i just said it.

Though ultimately he doesn't even need his best suit or to be in the best frame of mind. Even when he wasn't, he still had them beat and choose not to press his advantage and instead monologue.

Bruce doesn't actually believe Cap beats IM right? I mean, that would be pretty silly.

I think everyone understands that there was much context behind Tony losing to Steve in CA:CW and that in a MVF fight where they'd both be at full capacity and tying to kill each other, IM's vastly superior firepower, strength, versatility (ie flight) and durability would win.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Bruce doesn't actually believe Cap beats IM right? I mean, that would be pretty silly.

Almost as silly as thinking Ozy beats WS.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Though ultimately he doesn't even need his best suit or to be in the best frame of mind. Even when he wasn't, he still had them beat and choose not to press his advantage and instead monologue.
Ther are facts and then there's your worthless opinion. I always go with facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ther are facts and then there's your worthless opinion. I always go with facts.

Point out what I said that was false then. I'm waiting

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Point out what I said that was false then. I'm waiting
They bested Tony. Fact. Your opinion on why isn't a fact. After all these years you won't ever get it.

TIL Quan is still unable to understand movies. Nothing new, moving on.

Tony wrecks here.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
TIL Quan is still unable to understand movies. Nothing new, moving on.

Tony wrecks here.

I understand the team won. I understand people are upset and want to ignore what happened to what they think would happen. Reality >>>your fantasies.