Cap and Winter Soldier V Iron Man

Started by HulkIsHulk15 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Spiderman never defeated WS. For ****s sake it was a back and forth battle with various heroes turning the tide in a back and forth. You are a troll.

Yeah, he was webbed up like this and he's not yet beat. Quan logic again:
http://postimg.org/image/h6yf3n3up/

Originally posted by HulkIsHulk
Yeah, he was webbed up like this and he's not yet beat. Quan logic again:
http://postimg.org/image/h6yf3n3up/
Did he stay down ? Was he ko'd ? Do you realize how the fight worked with multiple heroes putting the other in precarious situations until other heroes came to their aid in a game of back and forth. When Spiderman took caps shield did he get it back the mk,net he wanted to by the aid of his friends ?

🙂

^ LMAO

Not to mention how he casually caught his bionic arm, chatting away and simultaneously fighting off Falcon. Yeah it was a stomp.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ LMAO

Not to mention how he casually caught his bionic arm, chatting away and simultaneously fighting off Falcon. Yeah it was a stomp.

So ? He's quite formidable and he casually talks his way through fights that in no way changes how he fights. He's strong just as WS is. WS took on various heroes in an effect to escape himself that doesn't mean he's greater than them all he's just difficult to bring down. He was in no manner defeated. Continue to exaggerate a webbing all you want but the WS wasn't brought in.

TIL: Spider-Man didn't outclass WS and Falcon and WS is just as strong as Spider-Man apparently

(I swear, quano probably didn't even watch the film, he's going off crappy Youtube blurry cam snippets)

For what it's worth, I believe the reason why Cap did much better than WS against Spidey is fighting style. WS fights like a blitzkrieg: strong, fast and brutal attacks. Unfortunately for WS, Spidey was a lot stronger and looked faster as well.

Cap fights with more technique and strategy. He uses moves that aren't straightforward and hit at different angles. He strings together combination of attacks and uses a lot of agile moves. Above all, he seems to use a lot more strategy and leverage than Bucky. That's how he overpowered Bucky's arm in their fight before.

Anyway, strategy, leverage and technique was what got him the win over Spidey.

Just putting that out there.

According to Quan logic though, Cap didn't defeat Spiderman, since ya know.. he didn't put him down or capture him.

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Spider-Man didn't outclass WS and Falcon and WS is just as strong as Spider-Man apparently

(I swear, quano probably didn't even watch the film, he's going off crappy Youtube blurry cam snippets)

He webbed him he didn't defeat him. There is a clear difference. Did WS break free ? Did multiple heroes in a massive hero vs fight help the others ? I welcome anyone to challenge me on this. I'll be here with common sense and reason not selective reasoning and hypocrisy.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
According to Quan logic though, Cap didn't defeat Spiderman, since ya know.. he didn't put him down or capture him.
I myself favor Cap over Spiderman feel free to disagree.

Originally posted by FrothByte
For what it's worth, I believe the reason why Cap did much better than WS against Spidey is fighting style. WS fights like a blitzkrieg: strong, fast and brutal attacks. Unfortunately for WS, Spidey was a lot stronger and looked faster as well.

Cap fights with more technique and strategy. He uses moves that aren't straightforward and hit at different angles. He strings together combination of attacks and uses a lot of agile moves. Above all, he seems to use a lot more strategy and leverage than Bucky. That's how he overpowered Bucky's arm in their fight before.

Anyway, strategy, leverage and technique was what got him the win over Spidey.

Just putting that out there.

Exactly, Cap's not faster, stronger or more agile than SM, he's far more experienced, a superior combatant and tactician, compared to the kid who's had powers and been crime-fighting for all of six months.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I myself favor Cap over Spiderman feel free to disagree.

Point is, you can't say Spiderman didn't defeat WS because he wasn't captured or KO'd, and then say Cap defeated Spiderman in the same sentence, when Spiderman wasn't KO'd nor captured by Cap. What we do know is, Bucky was taken out of the battle with the utmost ease by Spiderman. Spiderman didn't have an easy time with Cap. That much we can say is factual .

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Point is, you can't say Spiderman didn't defeat WS because he wasn't captured or KO'd, and then say Cap defeated Spiderman in the same sentence, when Spiderman wasn't KO'd nor captured by Cap. What we do know is, Bucky was taken out of the battle with the utmost ease by Spiderman. Spiderman didn't have an easy time with Cap. That much we can say is factual .
When did I say this ?

He was not taken out of the battle. He got webbed and then was free a few moments later. Hell, Cap was saved by his peer from being shot by WS and you don't hear me clamoring on about it. You are a hypocrite and change your criteria from thread to thread hence why you're mocked continuously. WS has fare far better against Cap than Spiderman as well.

Also who won this fight in the film ? Quit ignoring the facts like Darth Thor.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Point is, you can't say Spiderman didn't defeat WS because he wasn't captured or KO'd, and then say Cap defeated Spiderman in the same sentence, when Spiderman wasn't KO'd nor captured by Cap. What we do know is, Bucky was taken out of the battle with the utmost ease by Spiderman. Spiderman didn't have an easy time with Cap. That much we can say is factual .

There's also the fact that SM was at that time following Tony's orders and trying to capture WS, not kill him or harm the other heroes. He outclassed WS and Falcon; anyone who argues otherwise is a turd-mungler.

Originally posted by Robtard
There's also the fact that SM was at that time following Tony's orders and trying to capture WS, not kill him or harm the other heroes. He outclassed WS and Falcon; anyone who argues otherwise is a turd-mungler.
Ridiculous. Are you saying WS was trying to murder those he fought in this scene ?

Originally posted by Robtard
TIL: Spider-Man didn't outclass WS and Falcon and WS is just as strong as Spider-Man apparently

(I swear, quano probably didn't even watch the film, he's going off crappy Youtube blurry cam snippets)

Man even the Tv spot shows him casually catching WS's bionic arm. So if he's gonna YouTube the fights at least watch the Tv spots while you're at it facepalm

The scene even showed us the disbelief in WS' face that someone could so easily overpower his bionic arm, but yeah, chimpy's going to argue that SM and WS are the same in strength. Nonsense like that is the reason no one takes him seriously.

dp.

Originally posted by Robtard
The scene even showed us the disbelief in WS' face that someone could so easily overpower his bionic arm, but yeah, chimpy's going to argue that SM and WS are the same in strength. Nonsense like that is the reason no one takes him seriously.

Let's be fair to Quan here... he does a great number of things that cause people to not take him serious... This is just one of them

Haha So True though

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Man even the Tv spot shows him casually catching WS's bionic arm. So if he's gonna YouTube the fights at least watch the Tv spots while you're at it facepalm
So ? He didn't defeat WS. You can claim he did but you're being disingenuous and lying if you think WS was trying to murder people at the airport.