Originally posted by Zenwolf
Why is that?Although given The Force and Vader being the Chosen One, I've always felt that his power be hampered by mere machinery to be rather silly.
Sure to a degree I could see that his power needs to be degraded(not reaching his potential doesn't mean he can't grow in power, because where does this potential cap off at?), but still he should be solidly in the top 5 Force Users in the Mythos.
Lol, what? You clearly don't understand. It's not like Anakin's trying to fill a potential meter and the end of the line got cut.
He always had that power, in it's fullest, he just didn't have the knowledge or focus to command it like Luke could. Once he became Vader, that changed; he initially had only a fraction of his old power, and had to learn to compensate.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lol, what? You clearly don't understand. It's not like Anakin's trying to fill a potential meter and the end of the line got cut.He always had that power, in it's fullest, he just didn't have the knowledge or focus to command it like Luke could. Once he became Vader, that changed; he initially had only a fraction of his old power, and had to learn to compensate.
No I understand perfectly well, he does still have the power but he can't reach it due to what the machinery made him and his mindset.
But that was kinda referring to more Legends, Canon wise now since he's more powerful it's ok.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Stronger in mind, weaker in body.
There's no way that means he lost even an ounce of power. Either you deal with the hype train, or I suggest you get off.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am not sure whether to protest or rejoice over that revelation but it will prove problematic in the long run.
Just wait, everything will even out and there will be powers coming out the wazoo as new Force Users emerge onto the scene.
At least with Vader, we know that TK will only be his main thing and he should be in the Top 5 of TK because of that.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDTranslation: "I don't like the fact that Vader is more powerful in the new canon because it threatens the standing of my precious SWTOR characters."
To be honest, Disney had a golden opportunity to rewrite Star Wars history and rectify the faults of Legends content in the process.Unfortunately, newer canon content is even worse then the content it is supposedly replacing...
The current authors are (blindly) making Darth Vader look too powerful; a time will come when they will find it really difficult to explore and hype ancient characters. And then fans will have a new set of inconsistencies to deal with. We are already getting some.
Dry those tears LeG.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
"He stared at his reflection a long time. His injuries had deformed his body, left it a ruin, but they’d perfected his spirit, strengthening his connection to the Force. Suffering had birthed insight."There's no way that means he lost even an ounce of power. Either you deal with the hype train, or I suggest you get off.
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Originally posted by Beniboybling
Translation: "I don't like the fact that Vader is more powerful in the new canon because it threatens the standing of my precious SWTOR characters."Dry those tears LeG.
George Lucas did not envision Darth Vader as a top dog, he envisioned him as a man with flaws and limitations. According to him, Palpatine was the top dog. Lucas's justification for Darth Vader not being able to challenge Palpatine was that the former had suffered a loss of potential due to grave injuries. Lucas's story is about tragedy and redemption. Unfortunately, the writers are deviating from this gist and embracing Dragonballz path; they will ruin the original story in this manner.
Now that the canon writers seek to defy Lucas's perspective of the story, how would they justify Vader not managing to realize his true potential in a span of many years and overthrow Palpatine?
SWTOR is irrelevant in this case because it is not canon.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Because Palpatine is more knowledgeable than Vader, as well as the fact that Vader still would need an apprentice, once that Sidious wanted because Vader is a cripple?
Darth Vader should have the raw power to destroy Palpatine at some point. If injuries have not harmed his potential then he should be able to harness his true power at some point.
How many years would it take Darth Vader to realize his true power?
The new revelation doesn't makes any sense. Disney should have stayed away from Star Wars.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
So having more knowledge then Darth Vader is sufficient reason to remain above him?
Darth Vader should have the raw power to destroy Palpatine at some point. If injuries have not harmed his potential then he should be able to harness his true power at some point.
How many years would it take Darth Vader to realize his true power?
The new revelation doesn't makes any sense. Disney should have stayed away from Star Wars.