ROTS Sidious vs. Rebels Vader and Revan

Started by Beniboybling6 pages

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Similar to Neph's rant, yes. Neither of them want Vader looking formidable because they're biased against the era.
I disagree that Vader shouldn't be made formidable, but I do believe its important that Vader remains a broken individual, both physically and mentally. Which is what Lucas intended.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
I disagree that Vader shouldn't be made formidable, but I do believe its important that Vader remains a broken individual, both physically and mentally. Which is what Lucas intended.

Given that Vader has never been a picture of mental health and physically could have potentially been Father-tier, I'd say that's always been the case.

He can still conceivably be the 2nd strongest Sith ever, though.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Similar to Neph's rant, yes. Neither of them want Vader looking formidable because they're biased against the era.

Nah, I consider myself neutral in the PTTeam vs. SWTORTeam war, and I don't mind it mainly because it would only truly affect SWTOR's characters if Sheev >> Valkoriate. As of now, Sheev might only barely > Valkoriate, so the gap isn't that big between the others tbh. Even you, my friend, have to accept that if Valkorion < Sids, it's by a small margin.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Nah, I consider myself neutral in the PTTeam vs. SWTORTeam war, and I don't mind it mainly because it would only truly affect SWTOR's characters if Sheev >> Valkoriate. As of now, Sheev might only barely > Valkoriate, so the gap isn't that big between the others tbh. Even you, my friend, have to accept that if Valkorion < Sids, it's by a small margin.

Yeah, it's quite sad that you've decided to roll around in that excrement in all your finery.

I don't have to accept what's not true lol.

DO EET ACCEPT IT NOW

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
DO EET ACCEPT IT NOW

Nah.

Like I've said, Valkoriate is pretty underwhelming. I trolled through Leg's respect thread a few hours ago and even feat-to-feat, ol' Sheev has a comparable or more impressive counterpoint to it.

And way better accolades.

I keep going back to all the time, effort, and resources he had to get where he is... for Sheev to surpass it in the span of a human lifetime is hilarious.

I'm not saying Sheev isn't great. I'm only saying Valk is, too.

Sorry not sorry Gid. I knoe u still luv me doe.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
I'm not saying Sheev isn't great. I'm only saying Valk is, too.

Sorry not sorry Gid. I knoe u still luv me doe.

Valk's not weak, no. But he's no match for Sheev.

As a pupil of mine, I'm willing to extend you an opportunity to convince me. Surely an argument endorsing Valkoriate from you wouldn't be so... weak as arguments from the others.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Valk's not weak, no. But he's no match for Sheev.

As a pupil of mine, I'm willing to extend you an opportunity to convince me. Surely an argument endorsing Valkoriate from you wouldn't be so... weak as arguments from the others.

Where would you place him Gid?

Originally posted by Syndicate
Where would you place him Gid?

Below Sheev and above Bandon.

I generally don't rank characters anymore unless their position in the hierarchy has been pretty thoroughly established by credible authorities.

Hmm. What if I don't actually want to convince you? I think it'd be kind of boring tbh, not having teh ultimate Sheev wanker around.

Anyway, define 'no match'. As in, you think 1v1 Sids literally rapes him?

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Hmm. What if I don't actually want to convince you? I think it'd be kind of boring tbh, not having teh ultimate Sheev wanker around.

Sheevism has been the single most important faction in the history of this forum and Sheev the most important figure. Lightsnake, who started the whole thing, has been gone for years, as has Gideon. I'm sure Sheevism could manage just fine without me.

Assuming you can stop me, of course.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Anyway, define 'no match'. As in, you think 1v1 Sids literally rapes him?

No match as in they're not equals. Sheev is better. He's more powerful, more skilled, more learned, smarter, stronger, faster, more agile. He's a greater warrior and a greater sorcerer. He's a greater threat to both cosmos and civilization.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sheevism has been the single most important faction in the history of this forum and Sheev the most important figure. Lightsnake, who started the whole thing, has been gone for years, as has Gideon. I'm sure Sheevism could manage just fine without me.

Assuming you can stop me, of course.

You never truly left, you don't deceive me. You've always been around... Checking in, observing the progress of Sheevism.

No match as in they're not equals. Sheev is better. He's more powerful, more skilled, more learned, smarter, stronger, faster, more agile. He's a greater warrior and a greater sorcerer. He's a greater threat to both cosmos and civilization.

You didn't answer the question tho.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sheevism has been the single most important faction in the history of this forum and Sheev the most important figure. Lightsnake, who started the whole thing, has been gone for years, as has Gideon. I'm sure Sheevism could manage just fine without me.

Assuming you can stop me, of course.

No match as in they're not equals. Sheev is better. He's more powerful, more skilled, more learned, smarter, stronger, faster, more agile. He's a greater warrior and a greater sorcerer. He's a greater threat to both cosmos and civilization.

Temp. Like not to burst your bubble but Sinious and I ( maybe Fated? ) are pretty much the only ones who aren't full on Valkorianites and even we're on the fence. Who else is as fervent a Sheev supporter as you?

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
You never truly left, you don't deceive me. You've always been around... Checking in, observing the progress of Sheevism.

As I said, Sheevism would endure without me if it had to. You need only look at the efforts of others, elsewhere, like Silver2467. Sheevism is still victorious on all fronts.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
You didn't answer the question tho.

I did exactly that. You asked what "no match" meant and I told you. I never said Sheev would stomp Valk.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
As I said, Sheevism would endure without me if it had to. You need only look at the efforts of others, elsewhere, like Silver2467. Sheevism is still victorious on all fronts.

I did exactly that. You asked what "no match" meant and I told you. I never said Sheev would stomp Valk.

I asked if you thought Sheev would rape Valk 1v1. Or, if not, how close a fight do you think it'd be?

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
I asked if you thought Sheev would rape Valk 1v1. Or, if not, how close a fight do you think it'd be?

Barring a Force storm, I don't think it would be a stomp, no.

BE MORE SPECIFIC GODDAMNIT. I MADE YOU A SIG.

How close a fight do you think it would be?

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
BE MORE SPECIFIC GODDAMNIT. I MADE YOU A SIG.

How close a fight do you think it would be?

I'm... not sure what you want to hear lol.

I want to hear your thoughts on how close a fight do you think it would be if the two faced off.

Close? Not very close? Very close? Borderline stalemate? What?