Game of Thrones

Started by ares834142 pages
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
When you realise you've been
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banging a family member
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What's the issue?

His Stark half is mortified because they're not with that. But his Targaryen half is like...meh.

Makes you wonder whether dragons can sense Targaryens, hence the disapproving dad look at the waterfall lol.

Of course they can, they know he's the true king as well, that's why he was able to ride them.

That could also have just been because of Daenerys though. As was mentioned earlier, a few others rode with her on one of her dragons when they escaped the Night King last time. Around the 6:50 mark.

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Either way, given what we knew about their relationship (which they didn't at the time), it added extra humour to that glare. At least for me.

Because she was on the dragon when she rescued them.

And she was also present with Jon. I doubt her dragons are going to intentionally murder someone she is clearly fond of in front of her. So, it's hardly evidence that they have an instinctual ability to detect them. Now, not saying it isn't the case either (after all, I started the speculation about it myself). Might be totally possible that this is part of show canon. But one dragon ride isn't really proof of it.

Jon clearly has a connection with the dragons that others don’t. For example, in season 7 there was a scene where one of the dragons wants to be pet by Jon and Dany was shocked by this. That’s because of his Targaryen blood. Now I’m unsure if being a Valyrian is required to become a dragon rider or not, but it certainly helps.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
And she was also present with Jon. I doubt her dragons are going to intentionally murder someone she is clearly fond of in front of her. So, it's hardly evidence that they have an instinctual ability to detect them. Now, not saying it isn't the case either (after all, I started the speculation about it myself). Might be totally possible that this is part of show canon. But one dragon ride isn't really proof of it.

Its hard evidence they knew he was a Targarian the first time he met them.

Jon made out with his aunt in front of a dragon named after his dad.

If the dragon can sense Targaryen's then that dragon is a dick for not warning her she was banging her nephew.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Its hard evidence they knew he was a Targarian the first time he met them.

You and I have a very different interpretation of "hard evidence" then.

Originally posted by Surtur
Jon made out with his aunt in front of a dragon named after his dad.

If the dragon can sense Targaryen's then that dragon is a dick for not warning her she was banging her nephew.

Dragons are often portrayed as dicks though.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Makes you wonder whether dragons can sense Targaryens, hence the disapproving dad look at the waterfall lol.

They can, it's also hinted at with Tyrion being a Targ when he was able to get close and touch them, despite them being caged, stressed out and starving.

Originally posted by Robtard
They can, it's also hinted at with Tyrion being a Targ when he was able to get close and touch them, despite them being caged, stressed out and starving.

That's operating under the premise that Tyrion is indeed one though. Because if he isn't, then it might be a case of sensing intent more than anything else. Though it would still imply them possessing some higher awareness of those around them.

I've always hated the Tyrion is a Targaryeon theory. It really takes away from his relationship with Tywin and it feels repetitive (yet another secret Targ).

Originally posted by Surtur
Jon made out with his aunt in front of a dragon named after his dad.

If the dragon can sense Targaryen's then that dragon is a dick for not warning her she was banging her nephew.

But the Targaryens were into incest. Gotta keep the bloodline pure and all.

Originally posted by ares834
I've always hated the Tyrion is a Targaryeon theory. It really takes away from his relationship with Tywin and it feels repetitive (yet another secret Targ).

I am kind of playing Devil's advocate right now, but, to be honest, I could see the HBO writers actually ending up going along with this one. Peter Dinklage seems to enjoy trolling people about it though. He makes comments at an award show that push fans in one direction, then does an interview on another show where he hints at the opposite.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That's operating under the premise that Tyrion is indeed one though. Because if he isn't, then it might be a case of sensing intent more than anything else. Though it would still imply them possessing some higher awareness of those around them.

There's been plenty of other hints that Aerys II Targaryen (aka The Mad King) had legit cuckolded Tywin and slept with his wife, impregnating her with Tyrion. Which is basis of the reason why Tywin always hated Tyrion.

It also completes the basis for the three heads of the dragon, Jon, Daenerys and Tyrion. But with Viserion now dead/undead, that also leaves Tyrion without a dragon to ride 🙁

Originally posted by Robtard
There's been plenty of other hints that Aerys II Targaryen (aka The Mad King) had legit cuckolded Tywin and slept with his wife, impregnating her with Tyrion. Which is basis of the reason why Tywin always hated Tyrion.

It also completes the basis for the three heads of the dragon, Jon, Daenerys and Tyrion. But with Viserion now dead/undead, that also leaves Tyrion without a dragon to ride 🙁

Yeah, but the writers have also stuck red herrings and plot threads that led to nowhere in the show as well. But, like I said, even though I am playing Devil's advocate right now, I wouldn't actually be surprised if they end up going that route in the end.

I personally always preferred the theory that Tyrion was indeed Tywin's son, and that Tywin hated him exactly because he fathered him, a dwarf, a sign of potential inferiority or weakness of his genetic lineage. Which, for someone of Tywin's character and position, would be a sore point to say the least. So, he's projecting his own perceived failure onto his son, Tyrion, because he reminds him of it every time he sees him. But eh, that's just my own little side theory.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Dragons are often portrayed as dicks though.

This isn't hard bud, Aegon Targaryen, is the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, the late Prince of Dragonstone. He has a connection to the Dragons and might end up having a closer one then Danny does with them. He's the rightful king, go back and watch the first time he interacted with the dragons in S7. Danny saw how they were with him and she could not explain it.

Didn't love the first episode. Lot of cheesy overly snappy dialogue and it felt too fan fictiony.