Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Oh really....? Thats strange, because I feel that 20k mph is a conservative estimate...Tell me, whats the average velocity of an asteroid impacting into the Earth?
Once you answer that question, did you know that an impactor from space will be accelerated further by the Earth's gravity well once it gets close enough to our planet?
How fast do you think Vengeance was traveling since you believe my number is ridiculous?
Asteroids actually slow down due to friction once they enter Earth's atmosphere. Since Earth's atmosphere offers more resistance than the vacuum of space. /science
That aside, we know the Vengeance wasn't going 20,000+ while in Earth's atmosphere because we have stationary visuals around it from which we can judge it's speed.
Looks similar to the speed a landing jumbo jet has on descent, so a few hundred mph, give or take.
Originally posted by KingD19
The city may as well have been nuked if a ship as big as Vengeance hit at 20,000mph. Even in the water.Also a meteor is not the same as a starship doing a controlled crash landing.
So, how fast do you think it was going?
If you are going to call me wrong, you gotta have something more than just "you are wrong."
Originally posted by Robtard
Asteroids actually slow down due to friction once they enter Earth's atmosphere. Since Earth's atmosphere offers more resistance than the vacuum of space. /scienceThat aside, we know the Vengeance wasn't going 20,000+ while in Earth's atmosphere because we have stationary visuals around it from which we can judge it's speed.
Looks similar to the speed a landing jumbo jet has on descent, so a few hundred mph, give or take.
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How much time elapsed from descent to impact?
@Robtard
An impactor of sufficinet mass wont be slowed down by the Earth's atmosphere in any significant way; the kinetic energy gained by falling into the Earth's gravity well will far superceed the friction that will arise during reentery...
An object the mass of a star ship traveling at orbital velocity will cut through Earth's atmosphere like a hot knife through butter...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@RobtardAn impactor of sufficinet mass wont be slowed down by the Earth's atmosphere in any significant way; the kinetic energy gained by falling into the Earth's gravity well will far superceed the friction that will arise during reentery...
An object the mass of a star ship traveling at orbital velocity will cut through Earth's atmosphere like a hot knife through butter...
I can appreciate you're doing a mocking routine and it's all good, this place needs a good laugh from time to time. But just stop trying to be a 'sciencer'.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderWhy would I? I was just pointing out that with that sentence it becomes obvious that you know nothing about physics.
Oh, I'm a bit smarter than h1...But since you decided to chime in, how fast do you think the ship was traveling during descent?
Give me a conservative estimate...
PD: a lot less than the ship's hypothetical terminal velocity (if you know what that is). Mainly due the resistance of earth's atmosphere and the fall not being straight down with water and ground further stopping it's momentum gradually at the time of the landing.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Why would I? I was just pointing out that with that sentence it becomes obvious that you know nothing about physics.PD: a lot less than the ship's hypothetical terminal velocity (if you know what that is). Mainly due the resistance of earth's atmosphere and the fall not being straight down with water and ground further stopping it's momentum gradually at the time of the landing.
Pass a certain mass, terminal velocity means nothing...the impactor cuts through the atmosphere too fast for it to be a factor.
Originally posted by KingD19
So what you're saying is...what's shown on screen supercedes your calculations because the only thing that matters is what we see and what the creators wanted?
The only thing that matters is that Khan is a baaaaaaddddd muthaf****r who survived an impact with an object weighing around 4.5 million metric tones traveling at orbital velocity...
Thats an inescapable fact here...
Khan is MONTY HALL!!!