Originally posted by Surtur
Of course the person Batman 1M is doing that to is vastly less powerful then KK.
Well...what telepathic resistance feats does KK have?
Galan showed a TP attack. And said it would be a winner, COUPLED with B1M's physical prowess.
So...it would work on KK based on his lack of TP defences.
Now, onto you, to showcase these impressive defences.
Why does he need telepathic resistance feats when it's a little beam of undetermined speed shooting out of Batman's finger?
It would work if KK just stood there, I will totally give you that. Oh wait, the guy has dodged shit after being hit by it. Like speed force infused lightning, but no matter, he doesn't have to let this hit him anyways.
Originally posted by Surtur
Why does he need telepathic resistance feats when it's a little beam of undetermined speed shooting out of Batman's finger?It would work if KK just stood there, I will totally give you that.
Because it is a telepathic attack, as per the scan?
Which would travel at the speed of thought. As, well, it's...you know, telepathic in nature.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because it is a telepathic attack, as per the scan?Which would travel at the speed of thought. As, well, it's...you know, telepathic in nature.
Why is thought faster then someone who dodges speed force infused lightning? AFTER it hits them, mind you.
Also does the scan not say the attack is partially physical? So we assume it travels at the speed of thought because..why?
I mean the attack says it's only partially telepathic, so assuming that means it automatically travels at the speed of thought seems problematic at best. But even if we do..why is this something someone like Karate Kid can't dodge? Does speed force infused lightning travel slower then the speed of thought?
Originally posted by SurturI actually cited multiple reasons why he would win... All you had to do was read my posts. 🙂
Actually you are the one who came and posted a scan of Batman 1M and said it showed why he won. So isn't on you to show why? Since again: doing it to Batman is not the same as doing it to Karate Kid.
...But I now see that you are arguing that KK is faster than TP, so I doubt my logic will go very far with you. /shrug
Originally posted by Galan007
I actually cited multiple reasons why he would win... All you had to do was read my posts. 🙂...But I now see that you are arguing that KK is faster than TP, so I doubt my logic will go very far with you. /shrug
I argued that KK is faster then a beam that is partially telepathic in nature.
Originally posted by Surtur
Why is thought faster then someone who dodges speed force infused lightning?
Because onus is now on you to prove how fast that speed infused lightning was 🙂 (hint: lightning does not travel at the speed of light).
http://www.maine.gov/mema/prepare/prep_display.shtml?163524
But regardless, despite what KK said, art clearly shows:
No ducking.
I just don't think KK was serious when he said he ducked (and as I am not trying to be biased, I also post the scan):
You can clearly see the smirk on his face.
Edit: the beam is not 'partially' telepathic. It is 100% telepathic. The kick? Is not.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because onus is now on you to prove how fast that speed infused lightning was 🙂 (hint: lightning does not travel at the speed of light).http://www.maine.gov/mema/prepare/prep_display.shtml?163524
But regardless, despite what KK said, art clearly shows:
No ducking.
I just don't think KK was serious when he said he ducked (and as I am not trying to be biased, I also post the scan):
You can clearly see the smirk on his face.
So just to be clear: an attack is said to be partially telepathic and it's automatically the speed of thought. An attack is infused with the speed force and "it's on you" to show how fast is it?
Alrighty, no point in furthering this.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Can someone explain to me wtf is speed force infused lightning? Im having an aneurysm just reading the phrase
The speed force infuses people with super speed, it makes them faster. I'm struggling to see why you can't figure out what infusing lightning with the speed force means. Why is this a problem for you? Which words don't you understand?
For Surtur:
The WHOLE move is partially TP (the beam) AND physical (the kick). It is two attacks, simultaneously (imagine Prof X kic..oh wait. Imagine Black Bolt screaming whilst punching at the same time, or Supes HVing and freezebreathing at the same time...then calling it the SuperAbhi hot'n'cold Death Move).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
For Surtur:The WHOLE move is partially TP (the beam) AND physical (the kick). It is two attacks, simultaneously (imagine Prof X kic..oh wait. Imagine Black Bolt screaming whilst punching at the same time, or Supes HVing and freezebreathing at the same time...then calling it the SuperAbhi hot'n'cold Death Move).
But freeze breath and heat vision are two separate powers. He says the POWER he is using is partially telepathic. A kick is just a friggin kick dude, why assume THAT is part of it? That makes no sense.
"The attack is telepathic as well as physical" means he is talking about the SAME attack. Comparing it to heat vision and freeze breath makes no sense.
Originally posted by Surtur
So just to be clear: an attack is said to be partially telepathic and it's automatically the speed of thought. An attack is infused with the speed force and "it's on you" to show how fast is it?Alrighty, no point in furthering this.
The move is comprised of two attacks simultaneously. A spin kick to the midsection, AND a TP attack. Not hard to imagine, considering it's from an octopus species with multiple appendages.
So the TP attack is 100% the speed of thought, and the kick is 100% the speed of B1M.
I then showed how lightning is not all 'that' fast, and moreover, there is room for doubt that he even ducked it (ducking implies it went over his head. Art clearly does not show this). Whilst said with a smirk.
But no you compared it to heat vision and freeze breath, which are two separate attacks. Batman says the attack is telepathic and physical. He is talking about the same attack having multiple properties.
Your argument is it's two separate attacks that Batman phrased to sound like 1 attack with two different properties. This flat out makes *no* sense.
It's not purely telepathic, we have no reason to assume it's the speed of thought, and thus the lightning feat isn't needed to say he can dodge it.
Originally posted by Surtur
But freeze breath and heat vision are two separate powers. He says the POWER he is using is partially telepathic. A kick is just a friggin kick dude, why assume THAT is part of it? That makes no sense."The attack is telepathic as well as physical" means he is talking about the SAME attack. Comparing it to heat vision and freeze breath makes no sense.
Nope, the MOVE is both physical AND telepathic. No 'partial' about it.
Originally posted by Surtur
But no you compared it to heat vision and freeze breath, which are two separate attacks. Batman says the attack is telepathic and physical. He is talking about the same attack having multiple properties.
Yes, as it was developed by telepathic aliens.
Imagine Xavier punching whilst using his TP. Or Kid Omega kicking and using TP. Or Cable, punching and using TP, or....you get the picture.
Originally posted by Surtur
The speed force infuses people with super speed, it makes them faster. I'm struggling to see why you can't figure out what infusing lightning with the speed force means. Why is this a problem for you? Which words don't you understand?
Dont condescend. I just asked a question why are u soo...defensive? So this happened on panel? A bolt of lightning was infused with the speed force? Ive never seen it thats y i asked
But you could just as easily take it to mean the beam has a physical impact on you and effects you telepathically. Why is this automatically an attack that must move at the speed of thought. He shot a friggin finger beam that puts the telepathic whammy on you. But it's HOLY SHIT HOW COULD U THINK THIS ISN'T THE SPEED OF THOUGHT!!!!
No, we can agree to disagree on that I guess. It's really not clear.