Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The move is comprised of two attacks simultaneously. A spin kick to the midsection, AND a TP attack. Not hard to imagine, considering it's from an octopus species with multiple appendages.

So the TP attack is 100% the speed of thought, and the kick is 100% the speed of B1M.

I then showed how lightning is not all 'that' fast, and moreover, there is room for doubt that he even ducked it (ducking implies it went over his head. Art clearly does not show this). Whilst said with a smirk.

I know this is a year old but I found it interesting.

I'm kind of leaning towards agreeing with sutur about the speed of the tp attack, though for different reasons.

Its clearly different than a normal Xavier like tp attack. Xavier just thinks something and boom instantly at the speed of thought it happens. That's a little different than bats1m thinking it then having to point at u, then fire a tp beam out of his finger and have that beam reach u.

I'm not seeing how Xavier's attack can be at the speed of thought yet bats attack has several more steps to it and it still being %100 the same speed.

I see it more like some sort of evil genius mind phuckery ray gun. Where it might attack the mind but that doesn't necessarily mean the laser moves at the speed of thought. Now u might say that it's technically not a tp attack because u attacked with a ray gun and not your mind, but I don't see how thats much different that attacking with tp thru a beam from your finger.

Also what r we using as the speed for the speed of thought?

The answer to that brings me to my next line of thought which is more of a question than an argument and u and certainly Galan (I mention him because he was involved in the debate on this topic) would know better than I, but does tp in comics always move/attack at what ever we're using as the speed of thought?

For now I'll just use x feet per second as the speed. If Xavier attacks someone from across the globe does it take that x fps aka the speed of thought to travel around the planet, or is it instantanous? Same thing with someone like saturngirl who I believe has a galaxy spanning tp feat. Did that take the same x fps to cross the galaxy?

Like I said earlier I'm not as much debating one side or the other as much as I am just trying to figure it out.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.