TPM vs TFA

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It's actually exactly what you said.

Not comparable in the slightest given "Salt and Sanctuary" is an indie game and TFA is a rehash of the same story under the same name by the same company. Not to mention, TFA isn't a bad movie because it's unoriginal. It's a bad movie because it brings absolutely nothing to the table, with a terrible plot, while being unoriginal.

Then why does everyone love it, with it getting scores rivalling the original trilogy or Peter Jackson's LoTR movies?

Why does everyone like MLP? I sure as **** don't know. People don't like change, more importantly, people like dumb action movies. Not that the OT or LotR even had good writing or a good story.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Then why does everyone love it, with it getting scores rivalling the original trilogy or Peter Jackson's LoTR movies?

Just because a lot of people feel a certain way about something, doesn't mean it's inherently right.

I think TFA sucks because it's a transparent, shameless rehash when it could be something a hell of a lot more.

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If it has a good, but rehashed formula, to me, its still good.

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Originally posted by Jmanghan
If it has a good, but rehashed formula, to me, its still good.

Originally posted by Sinious
Then you're as shameless as TFA 🙂

No, you just think creativity and originality is the heart of a good movie.

Wanna know something? Its impossible to be original today, every medium has stolen something off of something else.

I never said they're the "heart of a good movie". You don't have to be insanely creative or %100 original to make a good movie, but there is middle ground between that and being a complete remake, and as I've already explained, you can't treat a Star Wars movie the same way you watch a random stoner comedy. It's not meant to be just a fun movie, the continuity has to be kept rich. If Abrams wasn't up for the challenge, he shouldn't have shown the impudence to direct it.

Episode 8 will probably be amazing though.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No, you just think creativity and originality is the heart of a good movie.

Wanna know something? Its impossible to be original today, every medium has stolen something off of something else.

Can't speak for Sin but creativity and originality don't necessarily make for an inherently good movie.

That said, TFA is shit. They wiped the slate clean with post-ROTJ canon and had all the tools at their disposal to make something truly remarkable and take the saga in an exciting new direction. Instead, they opted for a lazy, disingenuous rehash of a classic Star Wars film, plagiarizing from their own friggin series.

If they had the honesty to just reboot the OT, I'd be OK with it. But this was a sackless, dishonest, cynical moneymaking move that utterly failed to justify itself creatively.

I award TFA no points and may God have mercy on Disney's soul.

I enjoyed both for what they were, abit yeah TFA was pretty much ANH and both had some eh scenes(I find more in TFA because it's similar to ANH), but then no movie is perfect in every single person's eyes.

It also diminishes the impact and import of the previous trilogy by basically hitting the reset button. Abrams changed some names and gave some shit a fresh paint job.

Pathetic tbh.

It's actually a lot worse than ANH, because ANH didn't need a novel released half a year later to explain most of what's going on.

TFA's creative failures highlight the success of NJO for me. NJO had some weak moments, but they were eclipsed by the good ones. A unique storyline, a unique and compelling villain, some new and memorable characters, and development for both the old crew and new.

Wtf is an "inherently good" movie lol? The closest standard would be its utilitarian benefit, which would actually correlate with popular opinion.

That was the point being made.

TFA was the Superman Returns of the Star Wars franchise: A love letter to the Original film whilst trying to be a sequel.

No idea why SR flopped whilst TFA became the 3rd biggest grossing film of all time though.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Can't speak for Sin but creativity and originality don't necessarily make for an inherently good movie.

Originally posted by The_Tempest

That said, TFA is shit. They wiped the slate clean with post-ROTJ canon and had all the tools at their disposal to make something truly remarkable and take the saga in an exciting new direction. Instead, they opted for a lazy, disingenuous rehash of a classic Star Wars film, plagiarizing from their own friggin series.

If they had the honesty to just reboot the OT, I'd be OK with it. But this was a sackless, dishonest, cynical moneymaking move that utterly failed to justify itself creatively.

I award TFA no points and may God have mercy on Disney's soul.

It also diminishes the impact and import of the previous trilogy by basically hitting the reset button. Abrams changed some names and gave some shit a fresh paint job.

Pathetic tbh.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That was the point being made.

It's the exact opposite, actually, lawl.