Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZAs a proponent of Sheevism, its company policy. Nothing personal. 🙂
Why are you such a douchebag to Neph, Beni? What did he ever do to you? 🙂
Originally posted by The EllimistWell to be fair, its probably the latter. ✅
Is Ant lowering himself by supporting Neph, or is Neph lowering himself by supporting Ant? mmm
ROTS novel
The Sith had changed. The Sith had grown, had adapted, had invested a thousand years' intensive study into every aspect of not only the Force but Jedi lore itself, in preparation for exactly this day. The Sith had remade themselves.They had become new.
While the Jedi --
The Jedi had spent that same millennium training to refight the last war.
Originally posted by The Ellimist I mean, he was in his twenties, right? Very few Force users are even at a fraction of their potential by that point.He was 34 by SoD. Bane hit the an hero at 46. If we are to believe the kind of training available to a RoT Sith is a 1000 years more advanced than it was for Bane, and Maul was trained since he was an infant (opposed to Bane only getting shit training by the age of like 18 or something), I don't think it's far fetched he could have exceeded him at least by SoD, where he's said to be growing in power ever since leaving Lotho Minor and as a result of being there in the first place.
And that very argument could be used to claim that Maul either doesn't have as much potential as Sidious's, or that he's already close to him.I don't think he does have quite as much as Sidious, but probably enough to be better than Bane.
Btw, what do you make of Maul surviving bisection? Given that it's a feat nearly unparalleled among Sith, something that caused pretty much everyone in CW to shit themselves, and is something that Sidious hadn't even thought possible until Maul pulled it off (which according to Witwer is the "seed planted in Sidious' head" that made him realize that Vader could survive his own injuries).
There's also the fact everyone from Anakin to Yoda to Dooku felt Maul as a "sinister rising" in the Force just because Savage was on his way to retrieving him from Lotho Minor.
It's not the same as pulling down a temple, sure, but the message is clear; Maul is clearly a remarkably powerful Sith. Enough to outwank Karpyshyn? 💃
Originally posted by ILS
He was 34 by SoD. Bane hit the an hero at 46. If we are to believe the kind of training available to a RoT Sith is a 1000 years more advanced than it was for Bane, and Maul was trained since he was an infant (opposed to Bane only getting shit training by the age of like 18 or something), I don't think it's far fetched he could have exceeded him at least by SoD, where he's said to be growing in power ever since leaving Lotho Minor and as a result of being there in the first place.
That's actually fairly convincing.
Maul stomps.
Training isn't the only way to gather power. 🙂
Being pushed to your limits lets you break a barrier training alone can't help budge. Maul being forced to survive without legs with nothing else other than his command of the Dark Side, and being left in shithole population himself for 12 years, to stew over his life's work being a complete and utter failure, helped him push those limits. He was insanely pissed.
I'm going to take a few minutes out of my busy day to address the ridiculous claim that mastery of one form in the Clone Wars era is apparently better than perfecting every move and sequence of the seven forms of lightsaber combat a thousand years earlier and in all prior eras because time gap.
For that to be true, the Jedi in that single thousand years would've needed to surmount the development of lightsaber combat in the several thousand years prior to the battle of Ruusan seven times over for mastering one form in the PT era to match Kas'im mastering all seven forms, never mind Kas'im spending decades after mastering all seven forms perfecting every move and sequence of the seven forms of lightsaber combat.
Also, even the battlemasters of Kas'im's era note that such a level of mastery is well beyond their grasp, whereas just about anyone worth anything in the PT era is capable of mastering one form. So you'd also have to assume that for whatever reason anyone capable of mastering a form in the PT era is somehow just naturally better at learning lightsaber techniques than the Jedi battlemasters of the eras preceding theirs and its not like the brains of every species in the galaxy evolved in such a way that would allow lightsaber combat to be that much more quickly learned.
Originally posted by EmperordmbWhat? Mastery over 7 forms doesn't make you 7 times better than someone whose mastered one. 😂
I'm going to take a few minutes out of my busy day to address the ridiculous claim that mastery of one form in the Clone Wars era is apparently better than perfecting every move and sequence of the seven forms of lightsaber combat a thousand years earlier and in all prior eras because time gap.For that to be true, the Jedi in that single thousand years would've needed to surmount the development of lightsaber combat in the several thousand years prior to the battle of Ruusan seven times over for mastering one form in the PT era to match Kas'im mastering all seven forms, never mind Kas'im spending decades after mastering all seven forms perfecting every move and sequence of the seven forms of lightsaber combat.
Also, even the battlemasters of Kas'im's era note that such a level of mastery is well beyond their grasp, whereas just about anyone worth anything in the PT era is capable of mastering one form. So you'd also have to assume that for whatever reason anyone capable of mastering a form in the PT era is somehow just naturally better at learning lightsaber techniques than the Jedi battlemasters of the eras preceding theirs and its not like the brains of every species in the galaxy evolved in such a way that would allow lightsaber combat to be that much more quickly learned.
And Plo Koon is among the most premier Jedi in the Order, why are you assuming his mastery over Djem So was the same as anyone else's? Whoever claimed that every "master" of Djem So in the Jedi Order > Kas'im.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
What? Mastery over 7 forms doesn't make you 7 times better than someone whose mastered one. 😂And Plo Koon is among the most premier Jedi in the Order, why are you assuming his mastery over Djem So was the same as anyone else's?
Mace Wndu confirmed 7X better than Dooku. Flawless argument. DMB solos. 👆