Kas'im vs Plo Koon

Started by cs_zoltan10 pages

Cin Drallig would beat 7 Dookus.

Those few minutes taken out of his day really went to waste. mmm

Originally posted by Aurbere
Mace Wndu confirmed 7X better than Dooku. Flawless argument. DMB solos. 👆

You've been providing some top notch arguments yourself, haven't y--

Oops. My bad. Threw up in my mouth a bit. 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
You've been providing some top notch arguments yourself, haven't y--

Oops. My bad. Threw up in my mouth a bit. 🙂

I'm writing something right now. So shut up. 🙂

The gap between the top tier Brotherhood combatants and the top tier PT combatants is so massive that Kas'im status doesn't really mean much (and just mastering a bunch of lightsaber forms is trivial at this level).

Yoda, Anakin, Windu, Obi Wan. Compare that to Kas'im and...Kaan? Qordis? Kopecz? ROFLAMO. All of the latter except for sort-of Kas'im were no match for a trainee Bane, and I think ILS has made a convincing case for Maul > peak Bane. The disparity between the two eras is just massive. I could buy Plo being above Kas'im.

Originally posted by Aurbere
I'm writing something right now. So shut up. 🙂

Right now as in every right now there's ever been or ever will be? It's been a while, bruh. 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Right now as in every right now there's ever been or ever will be? It's been a while, bruh. 🙂

A whole day...

I don't see you making any arguments though. 😬

Originally posted by Aurbere
A whole day...

I don't see you making any arguments though. 😬

You also don't see me talking shit about those that are. Which is my point. Hush. 🙂

Originally posted by Aurbere
A whole day...

I don't see you making any arguments though. 😬

Tbh Skillz is in minus points right now for agreeing with DMB. 🙂

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
You also don't see me talking shit about those that are. Which is my point. Hush. 🙂

Color Commentary, bro. Learn2Cast.

Beni, I actually like you more than almost anyone else on this board does. You've adopted my...forum emotions. 🙂🙂🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Tbh Skillz is in minus points right now for agreeing with DMB. 🙂

Minus maximum infinity points.

I'm flying/driving to Fated's right now. Somebody get me the penetrator. 🙂

Unsurprisingly my post is being completely misunderstood. I'm not arguing Kas'im wins just because of mastery of all seven forms, I'm saying that arguing mastering one form in the PT era grants you more knowledge or skill than perfecting every lightsaber technique and sequence in any era prior is a ****ing stupid argument.

And I don't see how Skillz agreeing with that point makes him have minus points or whatever.

No one likes the guy who helps the one being gang raped in prison, but they can't argue against SKILLZ because he's made no points of his own.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Unsurprisingly my post is being completely misunderstood. I'm not arguing Kas'im wins just because of mastery of all seven forms, I'm saying that arguing mastering one form in the PT era grants you more knowledge or skill than perfecting every lightsaber technique and sequence in any era prior is a ****ing stupid argument.

And I don't see how Skillz agreeing with that point makes him have minus points or whatever.

Right, because this has to do with one's knowledge of lightsaber forms, rather than who would win a fight. 😬

OK, Kas'im gets points for studying hard. Fact remains Plo Koon's Djem So technique is better than anything he has in his arsenal, and he will be defeated by it.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Beni, I actually like you more than almost anyone else on this board does. You've adopted my...forum emotions. 🙂🙂🙂
I believe this to be a complement. 🙂 🙂 🙂

👆 @ Freshest

I'm essentially the physical embodiment of derailment. I've accepted this ground reality and in return can bestow my powers on whomever I choose. 🙂

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Right, because this has to do with one's knowledge of lightsaber forms, rather than who would win a fight. 😬

OK, Kas'im gets points for studying hard. Fact remains Plo Koon's Djem So technique is better than anything he has in his arsenal, and he will be defeated by it.


>Suggests knowledge of lightsaber forms doesn't mean shit in a fight
>Immediately afterwards says Plo will defeat Kas'im because of his "evolved" understanding of Djem So :/

I think the bigger answer is just that this fight is impossible to resolve given the information we have.

@dmb

It's only logical that forms would develop new strikes and such as Jedi find new sources of knowledge.

Remember, Juyo didn't come into play until the beginning of Kotor 2. Thus we can't say that a typical Juyo master from that era(ex Atris) is in any feasible way on par -in terms of mastery- with Bane or someone like Bulq.

Dismissing this for the moment, you have to acknowledge that there's no feasible way Kas'im could have mastered everything there was to know about lightsaber fighting, because each style is personal, each style is unique, and each Jedi can gear their style into a complete unique and unorthodox thing.

For example;

A shien specialist using shien to duel.(Gallia)

Ataru user fighting multiple opponents(Yoda, QGJ, Quinlan)

Ataru user fighting a prolonged battle(QGJ, Xanatos, Yoda)

In my humble opinion, whenever the quote about being the best is ever mentioned, I think of it as. "He mastered everything there was to master... at the time"

Just my two cents, is all.