TOR Sith Empire vs PT Republic

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Can someone provide a quote for this, because that not what is says in my copy...

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Yeah especially considering they stopped bothering with lightsaber combat training. mmm

And this is what the SWTORE says on the Sith for what it's worth:

"MILLIONS STRIVE to become Sith, but many prove to weak to earn the honor."

Right, but it also says:

Many Sith spend their lives plotting their ascension to the Council, but with MILLIONS vying for only 12 seats, the competition is cutthroat."

And:

"MILLIONS of the galaxy's most powerful Sith were considered, but ultimately only one would prove worthy to serve the Emperor."

Originally posted by |King Joker|
The PT Jedi would be facing Sith who have been fighting on the front lines for years and thus are likely better combatively equipped to take on inexperienced Jedi? Maybe?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Do you even TOR, Joker?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
At the start of the Great Galactic War, Jadus is gone, Imperial Intelligence is disassembled, Kilran is dead, Mekhis is dead, Baras has already begun sabotaging the war on Corellia, etc. The fact that the Republic is an actual foe at all, which it is even before the infighting which was only caused by the Emperor's death, shows the Sith are no where near as powerful as they think they are. And lel at the Sith being an advantage over Jedi Knights training a thousand years to face Sith.

Isn't that actually the "Second" Great Galactic War?

It's just treated as one big war, as far as I've seen. KotFE said you're a veteran of the "Great Galactic War" of which you were a child during the first one.

That's confusing. Still, wouldn't that make the start of the war around "Return"?

Sure, but this thread says the SWTOR Sith Empire, which I assume is within the game's time frame.

SWTOR takes place during the Cold War, the Second Galactic War happens after.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Right, but it also says:

Many Sith spend their lives plotting their ascension to the Council, but with MILLIONS vying for only 12 seats, the competition is cutthroat."

And:

"MILLIONS of the galaxy's most powerful Sith were considered, but ultimately only one would prove worthy to serve the Emperor."

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
At the start of the Great Galactic War, Jadus is gone, Imperial Intelligence is disassembled, Kilran is dead, Mekhis is dead, Baras has already begun sabotaging the war on Corellia, etc. The fact that the Republic is an actual foe at all, which it is even before the infighting which was only caused by the Emperor's death, shows the Sith are no where near as powerful as they think they are. And lel at the Sith being an advantage over Jedi Knights training a thousand years to face Sith.

Yeah. Think of what would have happened if Anakin was there. Complete annihilation.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
They trained 1000 years to face the Sith, but still 10 000 clones were able to slaughter everyone inside the jedi temple in a few hours. Your average PT Jedi is not that great

Originally posted by Beniboybling
SWTOR takes place during the Cold War, the Second Galactic War happens after.
Fair enough. mmm

Ok, so we now know it wasn't a hyperbole, just a stupid, flawed, logicless and idiotic statement made by the creators of the game.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
They trained 1000 years to face the Sith, but still 10 000 clones were able to slaughter everyone inside the jedi temple in a few hours. Your average PT Jedi is not that great

Originally posted by Beniboybling
SWTOR takes place during the Cold War, the Second Galactic War happens after.
mmm

Originally posted by |King Joker|
I don't think there were many Jedi at the Temple, so there was a large numbers deficit against the Jedi, not to mention Anakin was leading them who's capable of easily wasting one of the most skilled Jedi at the temple. Not to mention it was a surprise attack. They basically had the entire Republic military against them bombing the temple as well. It really shouldn't be used against them, honestly.

It's even noted most able bodied Jedi Knights were away from the Temple.

With almost all able-bodied Jedi Knights deployed far from Courscant, the training of young Jedi has been cut. Those who remain in residence are left to fend for themselves.

- Taken from EP 3 Visual Dictonary

Plus it was the entire 501st Legion, which a Clone Legion is 9k+ troops.

So with most Jedi away from the Temple, plus surprise, plus an entire legion with a Sith lord backing, it really can't be used against them.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The war starts in Chapter II of pretty much everybody's story. What the hell are you talking about?

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Ok, so we now know it wasn't a hyperbole, just a stupid, flawed, logicless and idiotic statement made by the creators of the game.

As I've said in the past, I don't find it stupid. Quite the opposite. It's hardly TOR's fault that the numbers for every other era in the mythos are dumb. A couple thousand members of a galaxy spanning republic/empire are hardly going to make a ripple. The standard 10,000 number is moronic, another example of SF writers having no sense of scale.

Tbh millions does make much more sense than thousands.

EDIT: Though frankly Sith/Jedi in SWTOR are visibly much more populous than they are in the Clone Wars.

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In TOR you see squads of Jedi and Sith on the regular in battles and garrisoning positions. In the CW you mainly see a few Jedi together at most.

Yeah when Jedi Padawans are being put in charge of regiments, and Jedi Knights automatically being made generals, its clear they are not that many.