Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Can they vaporize oceans? Vaporize living beings? Extensively harm the planet's atmosphere?
Yep. They can reduce the upper mantle of a planet to molten slag, blast away its atmosphere, and vaporize all oceans (ICSII).
Destroying an Eclipse Super Star Destroyer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vitiate's rituals.
Your mentioning that 8000 sith lords were needed is a mark against Vitiate, not for him, lol. It doesn't tell us about its power independent of the actual effects.
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Nobody cares what the force storm threatened to do. I can threaten to solo a nightmare mode operation, doesn't mean i can follow through. Both of vitiates rituals destroyed the entire planet.
You could literally issue that threat via speaking, yeah.
Since Force storms can't talk, pretty sure it refers to a different definition of threaten lol.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yep. They can reduce the upper mantle of a planet to molten slag, blast away its atmosphere, and vaporize all oceans (ICSII).
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Destroying an Eclipse Super Star Destroyer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vitiate's rituals.
Eclipse is just a dot in comparison to a solar object like planet.
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Your mentioning that 8000 sith lords were needed is a mark against Vitiate, not for him, lol. It doesn't tell us about its power independent of the actual effects.
I was referring to Nathema. It proves that planetary-scale feats are extremely challenging and demanding tasks for even Force-users.
Nathema tells us how much Vitiate has grown (in a span of over 1000 years since) and how much punch his Ziost-based showing packed.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDLol no but it can feasibly tank in excess of planet busting power.
Eclipse is comparable to a planet in size, right.
Originally posted by The_Tempest😂
You could literally issue that threat via speaking, yeah.Since Force storms can't talk, pretty sure it refers to a different definition of threaten lol.
Jog your memory maybe? This argument isn't new.
It's superior to the Executor, which shrugged off three ISDs colliding with it as hyperspeed, one cruiser collision of such kind devastating a planet by fracturing its core. Ergo. the Eclipse should be capable of tanking planet-busting impacts and possibly more.
Saxton's Incredible Cross Sections primarily. I'll get you the quotes when I'm not working. Those sources give explicit firepower output ratings - the medium turbolasers of an Acclamator troop transport output 200 gigatons a shot, .ie multiple times the world's nuclear arsenal. An Acclamator can turn the upper mantle of a planet to molten slag in about an hour's bombardment.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
It's superior to the Executor, which shrugged off three ISDs colliding with it as hyperspeed, a lesser collision of such kind that has fractured a planet. Ergo. the Eclipse should be capable of tanking planet-busting impacts and possibly more.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Provide solid evidence.
Base Delta Zero= The code name for orbital attacks that involve the complete destruction of all assets of production, including factories, arable land, mines, fisheries and all sentient beings and droids. Such strikes reduce a planet's crust to molten slag.- Taken from Complete Encyclopedia
Originally posted by The Ellimist
Saxton's Incredible Cross Sections primarily. I'll get you the quotes when I'm not working. Those sources give explicit firepower output ratings - the medium turbolasers of an Acclamator troop transport output 200 gigatons a shot, .ie multiple times the world's nuclear arsenal. An Acclamator can turn the upper mantle of a planet to molten slag in about an hour's bombardment.
A 9.5 richter-scale earthquake released energy equivalent to 0.119E+08 atomic bombs. The Earth is doing fine.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
> says we don't give people feats beyond what they've shown
> wants to do that with the Dread Masters/Vitiatelol
Force storms are said to be able to "kill worlds," "tear the surfaces off worlds," and "threaten to consume all of space." Its ability to destroy planets is consistently affirmed.
Yeah I mean that Sidious can obviously do anything any other Sith can do since he's clearly more powerful than any of them. Same logic.
I said probably for a reason. It's logical to conclude it seeing as Vitiate was their pimp for hundreds of years, has access to their knowledge base and more and is superior to them. Sidious can't be so easily compared to them.
And I said that they could do both of those things. Just not immediately, with a slow process of destruction. The scale of the attack simply isn't great enough to do anything else. Sidious hasn't shown that he can spread his storm over an entire planet like Vitiate's weakened drain could.
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Pammant ring any bells?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenDSeriously? As if any of those tunnels went beneath the planet's crust, what proof is there that suggests they affected its stability?
Pammant was like a gigantic factory with massive man-made openings/tunnels inside the planet's surface. Due to this reason, Pammant was often labelled as "Tunneled planet." Super shockwaves could easily reach and affect its core.