Force storms vs. Ziost

Started by The_Tempest18 pages
Originally posted by MS Warehouse
the point is we don't really know what the force storm would have done. We saw what vitiates rituals have done.

Sure we do. It could consume all of space. Ziost is minor league stuff next to that kinda power.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Seriously? As if any of those tunnels went beneath the planet's crust, what proof is there that suggests they affected its stability?

Those tunnels were so massive that the planet itself was often dubbed as "tunneled planet." This planet had underground Starship manufacturing facilities.

My point is that powerful shockwaves could travel through those tunnels and reach the crust of the planet easily in this manner. We also don't know how big this planet is.

Originally posted by Nephthys
It can "kill worlds" similar to how I can wipe out the dirt in my house. It doesn't mean my vacuum's got house-sized suction (thats you), just that I can vacuum up a bit at a time. Sidious has never demonstrated a Storm that's planetary in scale, or close to it.

NGL I like this analogy.

Yeah well you suck almost as much as Neph's hypothetical house-sized Hoover.

Repent, don't encourage the heretic.

You're my hypothetical house-sized Hoover, dear. 😉

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Those tunnels were so massive that the planet itself was often dubbed as "tunneled planet."
Can you provide sources to support this? How 'massive' are these tunnels stated to be exactly?
Also, my point is that powerful shockwaves could travel through those tunnels and reach the crust of the planet easily in this manner.
Do you geology? The crust is the outermost layer of a planet, go outside and you are standing on it. These "shockwaves" reached and fractured the planet's core, thousands of kilometers beneath the crust. A bunch of tunnels on the surface are nowhere near that deep.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Sure we do. It could consume all of space. Ziost is minor league stuff next to that kinda power.
theoretically. We aren't interested what the force storm could theoretically do, we are instructed in what the rituals have done.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You're my hypothetical house-sized Hoover, dear. 😉

Doesn't make any sense, I exist. Misfire bro.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Doesn't make any sense, I exist. Misfire bro.

Hey Tempest do you have any commands for me milord?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
theoretically. We aren't interested what the force storm could theoretically do, we are instructed in what the rituals have done.

Since you've historically cited Vitiate's Galaxy slurping ritual as a demonstration of great mastery despite it never actually happening, this seems fishy.

Galaxy slurping ritual? Wha?

Think back to the plot of vanilla TOR.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Hey Tempest do you have any commands for me milord?
You really need a life.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Think back to the plot of vanilla TOR.
what about it? Did he consume the galaxy? He didn't? Hmm i wonder why i didn't mention it again.

Preeeeeeeettty sure you did. I'll have to search when I'm in front of a full keyboard. mmm

Originally posted by Zenwolf

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An imperial star destroyer's heavy turbolasers output teratons a shot. An Eclipse super star destroyer is like a hundred times more powerful (it has the reactor output of a medium star).

Palpatine destroying one with a storm is MASSIVELY superior to Vitiate wiping out life on a planet - that's shit a frigate could do.

This closes the discussion, even if we buy this bizarre argument that sourcebook statements should be taken as "speculation" unless if we see it in a comic panel or novel.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
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An imperial star destroyer's heavy turbolasers output teratons a shot. An Eclipse super star destroyer is like a hundred times more powerful (it has the reactor output of a medium star).

Palpatine destroying one with a storm is [b]MASSIVELY superior to Vitiate wiping out life on a planet - that's shit a frigate could do.

This closes the discussion, even if we buy this bizarre argument that sourcebook statements should be taken as "speculation" unless if we see it in a comic panel or novel. [/B]

Yea no, 1 star destroyer can't wipe out a planet. That's a terrible argument to make. Comparing a giant force storm is one thing, comparing a star destroyer to a complete annihilation of a planet is really reaching.

An SSD can tank planet-busting impact tho. ✅

Originally posted by Beniboybling
An SSD can tank planet-busting impact tho. ✅

He said a regular star destroyer and have we seen an SSD actually do anything resembling that or is this all a desperate rationalization?

Originally posted by MS Warehouse
Yea no, 1 star destroyer can't wipe out a planet. That's a terrible argument to make.

Wrong. As has been provided to you, base delta zeroes are a thing, and a single star destroyer can do it - heck, a single Acclamator troop transport can. This is both stated by sourcebook narrators and actually detailed in various stories. Star destroyers can wipe out worlds.


Comparing a giant force storm is one thing, comparing a star destroyer to a complete annihilation of a planet is really reaching.

It's not reaching, it's [Legends] canon, lol. Saxton's ICS's were not only explicitly backed by Leland Chee, he said that they were the first sources he'd look at for firepower figures. Saxton gives an Acclamator medium troop transport's medium turbolasers 200 gigatons a shot - that's multiple times the output of the world's nuclear arsenal at the height of the cold war. An imperial star destroyer has dozens of heavy turbolasers several times the size, and each can fire about once every two seconds. Do the math. 👆

(you don't need to do the math, actually, since the existence and ability of base delta zeroes has already been canonized)