Force storms vs. Ziost

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Reacter is powering those guns and functions of the entire vessel, its energy output doesn't translates to sheer firepower.

Aircraft carriers have nuclear reactors. Those reactors power its functions and weaponry. This is it.

You...didn't even bother to address what I was saying, LMFAO.

You also ignored the 200 gigaton point. You ignore the fact that a star destroyer can turn a planet's surface to molten lava in the course of an hour. You just block-quote posts and then vaguely respond to a somewhat related concept.

Get going on that figure, Legend, because I'm apparently a piece of sh*t for asking for it. 😂

...There's so much rage in this thread, I'm aroused beyond measure

Rage arouses you? That's strange.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
So you just called me a piece of sh*t for asking for an actual figure, lie and claim that you already provided one...and now admit that you didn't all along? 😂

This is what I could find:

The collision punched a crater into the planet's surface nearly 500 kilometres across, sending out seismic waves larger than any recorded earthquakes to shake the planet for half an hour at a time – six times longer than the huge quake that struck Japan three years ago. Those seismic waves broke off rocks, set off further shocks and launched tsunamis thousands of metres deep across the world.

In the aftermath, the sky would have become red hot, the atmosphere would have filled with dust and the tops of the oceans would have boiled. Vaporised rock from the impact would have rocketed into the atmosphere, where it would have condensed, first into liquid, before solidifying and raining back down onto the surface.

Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/bridaineparnell/2014/04/10/dino-killing-rock-dwarfed-by-colossal-asteroid-that-smashed-earth-three-billion-years-ago/#28b6e0556394

This is the actual paper: http://geology.gsapubs.org/content/early/2015/05/07/G36665.1.abstract

And this event is not even one of its kind. Several events of similar magnitude have occurred throughout Earth's span of existence.

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Scientists say that the sheer energy output of the referred event dwarfed that of (Chicxulub event at 90718 Gigatons).

Then why did you claim you had a concrete figure? LOL

In other words, it's nothing compared to a base delta zero operation, which can reduce the upper mantle of a planet to molten slag. Nice to know.

Now will you concede that busting a super star destroyer >>>>> killing life on a planet?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Then why did you claim you had a concrete figure? LOL

In other words, it's nothing compared to a base delta zero operation, which can reduce the upper mantle of a planet to molten slag. Nice to know.

Now will you concede that busting a super star destroyer >>>>> killing life on a planet?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
The comet that struck Earth about 65 million years ago, released energy equivalent to 100 Trillion Tons of TNT (750 times more powerful then total energy output of entire nuclear arsenal at present).

Another, much larger comet struck Earth about 3.3 billion years ago. It literally produced 11 richter scale Earthquakes. One cannot easily comprehend the energy output of this event.

In-fact, humans have endured a 9.5 richter scale Earthquake not long ago. The most powerful in recorded history whose energy output was equivalent to 0.119E+08 atomic bombs.

Guess what? Earth is doing fine.

Earth is lot more resilient then you imagine it to be.

You should read my posts more carefully.

You actually came with a figure of 500 gigatons (trying to be a smart@ss, which you are not):

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I can. That's around 500 gigatons, or only about twice the per-shot output of a medium turbolaser of an Acclamator transport. An imperial star destroyer is like ten times larger, and has several times as many heavy turbolasers, each of which surpasses that figure with every shot, and can fire about once every other second.

You don't know shit about what you're talking about, and yet you're still trying to lecture me on it! LMAO

- and [not surprisingly] your estimate is utterly wrong. Even the Chicxulub event released energy equivalent to 90718 gigatons of TNT.

To give you an idea of scale:

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As for the remainder of your post:-

Desolator superweapon (Harrower-class Starship) turned a planet into this with a single shot:

And guess what? There were survivors.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You are falsely accusing me of a claim that I never made:

You should read posts more carefully.

I asked you to produce an actual output rather than allusions. You called me a piece of sh*t, claimed that you had already made "concrete figures", and then quoted a post...where you don't post the output. LAWL.

You actually came with a figure of 500 gigatons which is utterly wrong.

500 gigatons was the calculation from the description you gave me, which you now admit was irrelevant and not actually indicative of its output, which you actually don't know. LAWL.

As for the remainder of your post:-

Desolator superweapon (Harrower-class Starship) turned a planet into this with a single shot:

And guess what? There were survivors.

WTF does this have to do with the fact that reducing a planetary surface to molten lava is >>>>>>>>>>> the K-T extinction event?

^^^

This guy is definitely drunk.

How could I be, when the human race never was, because all those extinction events turned the upper surface to molten slag and wiped out our ancestors? After all, you think that these events exceed the abilities of a star destroyer, and a star destroyer can reduce a planet's surface to molten lava...I'm just using the transitive property here. How could alcohol have been made into a drink for me to consume if I never existed?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I asked you to produce an actual output rather than allusions. You called me a piece of sh*t, claimed that you had already made "concrete figures", and then quoted a post...where you don't post the output. LAWL.

But I have provided following figures for you to consider:

1102311310 Tons = 1 Gigaton

499999999999 Tons = 500 Gigatons

100,000,000,000,000 Tons = 90718 Gigatons (Chicxulub event)

Now the asteroid responsible for the event (that occurred about 3.3 billion years ago) was much larger then the one responsible for Chicxulub event:

Therefore, sheer energy output of the event in question here would be much greater then that of Chicxulub event. This is a sound logical inference and experts have stated as much.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
500 gigatons was the calculation from the description you gave me, which you now admit was irrelevant and not actually indicative of its output, which you actually don't know. LAWL.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
WTF does this have to do with the fact that reducing a planetary surface to molten lava is >>>>>>>>>>> the K-T extinction event?

Desolator superweapon serves as a benchmark for firepower of Starships in general and it could one-shot a planet.

Desolalor did this to a planet with a single shot:

Yet, even this superweapon could not wipe out all life on the planet.

Time for you to concede.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
How am I supposed to come up with a figure of an event whose energy output have not been estimated by the experts themselves?

Then just say that instead of claiming you had one, lawl.

I have however provided following estimates:

1102311310 Tons = 1 Gigaton

499999999999 Tons = 500 Gigatons

100,000,000,000,000 Tons = 90718 Gigatons (Chicxulub event)

Now the asteroid responsible for the event (that occurred about 3.3 billion years ago) was much larger then the one responsible for Chicxulub event:

Therefore, sheer energy output of the event in question would be much greater then that of Chicxulub event. This is a sound logical inference and experts have stated as much.

Yeah, but the Chicxulub event is dwarfed by a base delta zero, so knowing that your event apparently does too tells us nothing.

What does tell us something is that the planet's surface wasn't reduced to slag, so we can be sure that it wasn't base-delta-zero tier. 👆

Don't try to make excuses for your nonsense.

🙄

Desolator superweapon serves as a benchmark for firepower of Starships in general and it could one-shot a planet. Yet, even this superweapon could not wipe out all life on the planet.

Desolalor did this to a planet:

Time for you to concede.

Except it's an official fact that base delta zeroes can reduce the planet's surface to molten slag, and destroy all life. This isn't an extrapolation or fan theory of mine. Can any of your extinction events?

BTW, none of those extinction events wiped out all life either. 👆

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Then just say that instead of claiming you had one, lawl.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Yeah, but the Chicxulub event is dwarfed by a base delta zero, so knowing that your event apparently does too tells us nothing.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
What does tell us something is that the planet's surface wasn't reduced to slag, so we can be sure that it wasn't base-delta-zero tier. 👆

More here: http://www.newsjs.com/url.php?p=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/28/asteroid-boiled-oceans_n_7457722.html

Early life-forms still survived.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Except it's an official fact that base delta zeroes can reduce the planet's surface to molten slag, and destroy all life. This isn't an extrapolation or fan theory of mine. Can any of your extinction events?

BTW, none of those extinction events wiped out all life either. 👆

There were survivors on the planet destroyed by Desolator. 👆

:facepalm:

It's not a f*cking theory, it's a canon statement, for f*ck's sake.

The Imperial Star Destroyer has enough firepower to reduce a civilized world to slag
Imperial Sourcebook, p.61

"Sir, what about bombardment? Is there a stage for that?"
"Blasting a planet from orbit is easy — you don't need me to tell you how to do that. Limited orbital strikes would occur during the invasion stage. Just hope you are never given a Base Delta Zero order, lieutenant. Ah, yes, another question?"
"Sir, what's the Base Delta Zero order?"
"Base Delta Zero is the Imperial code order to destroy all population centres and resources, including industry, natural resources and cities. All other Imperial codes are subject to change, as you well know, but this code is always the same to prevent any confusion when the order is given. Base Delta Zero is rarely issued. ...."
A World to Conquor, Star Wars Adventure Journal #2, p.256

Not to mention that your rebuttal is as irrelevant as it is wrong because NO EXTINCTION EVENT WIPED OUT ALL LIFE!

BTW, you did claim that you already provided concrete facts. But it seems like you're nervously trying to dismiss that now.

^^^

None of that implies extermination of all life-forms on the planet. 👆

An ISD can destroy population centers? Not a big deal. Remember Taris?

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Desolator could do this:

Before Desolator's attack:

Desolator's firepower is superior to that of any Starship.

How could you reduce a planet to slag and not kill everyone?

Its ironic considering those above images is that a slagged world would look like. 😬

Originally posted by The Ellimist
How could you reduce a planet to slag and not kill everyone?

Even in real-life, the 3.3 billion years old event did not exterminate entire biota of planet Earth. And this event cooked the entire planet (Desolator TIER).

Vitiate consumed entire biota of a planet and reduced it to a barren wasteland that never healed. The corrosive power of the Dark Side takes the lead. 👆

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
No where it is implied that a Starship could exterminate all life in a planet. Starships could destroy major population centers at maximum.

Even in real-life, the 3.3 billion years old event did not exterminate entire biota of planet Earth. And this event cooked the entire planet (Desolator TIER).

Vitiate consumed entire biota of a planet though. The corrosive power of the Dark Side takes the lead. 👆

/Sigh..

Legend...

Base Delta Zero, the code name for orbital attacks that involve the complete destruction of all 'assets of production' including factories, arable land, mines, fisheries, and all sentient beings and droids. Such strikes reduced a planet's crust to molten slag.

- Taken from Complete Encyclopedia

Star Destroyers are capable of delivering precise orbital strikes, destroying only a small section of a planet, as well as delivering bombardments that wipe out all life and industry on a world. A tactic known as a Base Delta Zero.

- Taken from Starships of the Galaxy.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
/Sigh..

Legend...

Desolator destroyed a planet named Uphrades (pictures provided by me in my post above). However, there were still survivors on the planet that were evacuated after the deed.

Even in real-life, an event that cooked the entire Earth (Temperatures approached 932 F mark), could not exterminate entire biota of Earth.

The Complete Encyclopedia is an in-universe sourcebook.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Those statements are wrong. Look at the case of Desolator.

Desolator destroyed a planet named Uphrades. Pictures provided above. However, there were still survivors on the planet that were evacuated after the deed.

Or maybe the Desolator isn't as powerful enough to completely wipe out a whole planet. Either that or it's an error, wouldn't be the first time with writing.

Plus that's a super weapon, it's not a ship that can just contentiously blast at the planet and make sure everything is dead.