Originally posted by Nibedicus
To be fair, Cap is a WW2 vet. And he joined the army to fight (aka kill) his country's enemies.
He did it in Avengers as well. So long after WW2.
Tony also kills a bunch of terrorists in his IM armor (and I'm not just talking about when he escaped the cave).
They've all done it, but we don't usually make a big deal out of it.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Superman and Batman have zero humor so I guess the impact of their murdersprees kinda weighs in on the viewers after a while.
I don't think the GA is complaining about that tbh. Mostly critics and DC Haters. BUt they should get their double standards in order first before making their criticisms.
However I don't think it helps that this new "killing" Batman has come right after Nolan's popular Batman series where he made such a big deal out of Not Killing. So that I would imagine might be the thing that could cause confusion amongst audiences.
Originally posted by Silent Master
There is a difference between killing and murdering.
Yes when it's a Marvel character it's killing, when it's a DC character it's plain murder.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
He did it in Avengers as well. So long after WW2.Tony also kills a bunch of terrorists in his IM armor (and I'm not just talking about when he escaped the cave).
They've all done it, but we don't usually make a big deal out of it.
That whole post was obviously a joke. 😛 I guess you take your DC very seriously.
If you wanna be serious, well, the best way I can explain it is the fact that the humor in the Marvel movies probably softens the blow during all the killing, we almost don't feel the deaths at all, while the overly dark and humorless themes in BvS just kinda exacerbates it. That's the best way I can explain it. At least from my perspective/opinion.
I mean, remember Keaton Batman? He killed like it was his hobby. But ppl laughed it off/cheered instead. I'm expecting the same thing in Suicide Squad. Lots of ppl laughing while the audience cheers.
I don't think my wife is a DC hater/critic, but she seemed to "feel" the killing done in BvS moreso than even the killing done in Deadpool.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I don't think the GA is complaining about that tbh. Mostly critics and DC Haters. BUt they should get their double standards in order first before making their criticisms.However I don't think it helps that this new "killing" Batman has come right after Nolan's popular Batman series where he made such a big deal out of Not Killing. So that I would imagine might be the thing that could cause confusion amongst audiences.
Well, I think ppl complain more about Superman killing (as, in the past, it has always been completely against his entire character to kill) than anything else. I would certainly say it left a bad taste in my mouth what they did to Metropolis. The Batman killing just feels a bit "off" but doesn't bother me all that much.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes when it's a Marvel character it's killing, when it's a DC character it's plain murder.
Now you're getting it! 👆
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Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Name one person Superman or Cap has murdered?
Superman killed Zod for one thing. Second, all the times Faora/Superman/Zod/Nam were battling, buildings were destroyed. Shit a whole building collapses in one scene. There very well couldn't been people in any one of those buildings who died via collateral damage. Though, I'd only need to point out killing Zod to prove the point.
Come on T.I. you saw Cap 1 right? He killed numerous people then and in the war. To say nothing of incidents depicted in CW, where again innocent people were killed. Sure, not directly by him or the avengers, but they still added to what occurred. Shit, Cap in the elevator could've easily killed somebody. He literally uppercut a dude head first into the top of the elevator. That couldn't easily done so if he hit wrong.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Superman killed Zod for one thing. Second, all the times Faora/Superman/Zod/Nam were battling, buildings were destroyed. Shit a whole building collapses in one scene. There very well couldn't been people in any one of those buildings who died via collateral damage. Though, I'd only need to point out killing Zod to prove the point.Come on T.I. you saw Cap 1 right? He killed numerous people then and in the war. To say nothing of incidents depicted in CW, where again innocent people were killed. Sure, not directly by him or the avengers, but they still added to what occurred. Shit, Cap in the elevator could've easily killed somebody. He literally uppercut a dude head first into the top of the elevator. That couldn't easily done so if he hit wrong.
Killing Zod was to protect others, Cap was in WWII. Not murder.
Now Superman taking Zod from the sparsely populated countryside and trying to fight him in downtown Smallville, that was negligent and any/all deaths that happened can be levied at his negligence. So maybe manslaughter?
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Superman killed Zod for one thing. Second, all the times Faora/Superman/Zod/Nam were battling, buildings were destroyed. Shit a whole building collapses in one scene. There very well couldn't been people in any one of those buildings who died via collateral damage. Though, I'd only need to point out killing Zod to prove the point. If he had the power to torque his neck and move it against Zod's will to the point of breaking his neck... he could've also moved his head enough to change the course of the HV. Instead that or other non lethal options he decided to kill him.Come on T.I. you saw Cap 1 right? He killed numerous people then and in the war. To say nothing of incidents depicted in CW, where again innocent people were killed. Sure, not directly by him or the avengers, but they still added to what occurred. Shit, Cap in the elevator could've easily killed somebody. He literally uppercut a dude head first into the top of the elevator. That couldn't easily done so if he hit wrong.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Like I said.Name one person Superman or Cap murdered.
Just because you want to change definitions and screen feats is not my problem.
That was murder. If he had the power to torque and move Zod's neck against his will, enough to snap his neck. He could've moved his head to change the direction of the HV and then try and come up with a non lethal alternative. Clearly they can be KO'd with enough force. Or possibly choked unconscious. Point is, he didn't have to do so, but did. Period end of story. Not my problem you have an issue accepting these facts.
Killing in the line of duty a not murder.
Period, end of story not my problem you can't understand simple definitions.
Now you will do flips for pages and pages cause your caught in the wrong and you can't do anything about it now.
Go rewatch the movie and come back when you can actually understand what happened.
Originally posted by Robtard
Killing Zod was to protect others, Cap was in WWII. Not murder.Now Superman taking Zod from the sparsely populated countryside and trying to fight him in downtown Smallville, that was negligent and any/all deaths that happened can be levied at his negligence. So maybe manslaughter?
Which is my point. Innocent people were likely killed in smallville and metropolis. He could've flown Zod and baited him away from the big city. They destroyed entire buildings. I would call it first degree murder mind you. But if harshly judged, it could be 2nd degree or manslaughter.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Killing in the line of duty a not murder.Period, end of story not my problem you can't understand simple definitions.
Now you will do flips for pages and pages cause your caught in the wrong and you can't do anything about it now.
Go rewartch the movie and come back when you can actually understand what happened.
Let me know when you're right about something, and I'll take a look then. Hasn't happened yet. You do realize that manslaughter is 3rd degree MURDER. It's called MURDER. If you consider Superman negligence manslaughter, which it most certainly could be, and thus third degree MURDER... he MURDERED people. You should know better than to get into a debate with me T.I. But I do like how you think you've proved yourself right, when in fact, you were wrong once again.