Originally posted by MythLord
Occams Razor guys. The simplest solution is best solution; we know the Echani are essentially bread for combat through precognitive abilities, so them commenting on Revan's precog is clearly referring to his Battle Precognition. Why would they just be in awe of regular precog when it has nothing to do with their culture or fighting techniques?
Bread? 🙂
Really? 🙂
That kind of talk won't prove Yoggy's superiority 🙂
Originally posted by MythLordAs in the Force based one, not the non-Force based Echani martial art. 👆
Occams Razor guys. The simplest solution is best solution; we know the Echani are essentially bread for combat through precognitive abilities, so them commenting on Revan's precog is clearly referring to his Battle Precognition.
Force Precognition is Force-based. Battle precognition is tactics-based. The quote "I always felt Revan was an incredible tactician, and the Echani were awed by his precog and natural skill with tactics" directly associates Revan's precognition with his tactics, not his Force abilities. Furthermore, Brianna directly told the Exile how battle precognition works and then said "only Revan ever demonstrated such a skill in war. And even as he slaughtered us, the Echani still respected him."
Originally posted by MythLord
Occams Razor guys. The simplest solution is best solution; we know the Echani are essentially bread for combat through precognitive abilities, so them commenting on Revan's precog is clearly referring to his Battle Precognition.
He achieved their ideal, it isn't necessary that he used their methods. How would they even know, did he send the a fax telling them he was using battle precog? How would Revan even learn it?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66And yet in describing Revan as an incredible tactician, he cites two things 1. his precognitive ability and 2. his tactical ability.
Force Precognition is Force-based. Battle precognition is tactics-based. The quote "I always felt Revan was an incredible tactician, and the Echani were awed by his precog and natural skill with tactics" directly associates Revan's precognition with his tactics, not his Force abilities. Furthermore, Brianna directly told the Exile how battle precognition works and then said "only Revan ever demonstrated such a skill in war. And even as he slaughtered us, the Echani still respected him."
By your own words what you've described would fall under 2., 1. therefore could only refer to Force ability.
And yeah, that doesn't mean he achieved it through the same means. Brianna essentially says that by reading their opponents they could predict what they could do on a microcosmic and macro-cosmic level. The former Revan can replicate with Force-based precognition, the latter with exceptional tactical ability. Just like Avellone says.
What? No. That's retarded. The fact he made a distinction means precognition and tactical ability isn't synonymous, which we already knew. Force-precognition cannot be used in the ways Brianna is explaining. When Brianna says "such a skill," she's referring to the Echani arts, for she's explaining to the Exile how it works. She's not explaining general precognition and saying Revan could also do it due to the Force. That wouldn't make any sense, since then he wouldn't have been capable of accomplishing the skill she cited, given it requires calculating and gauging heart beats, fighting styles, combat moves, etc, which Force-based precognition doesn't do. Since you're retarded though, I emailed Avellone. I bet every existing respect thread I have, including the Revan respect thread, that he's referring to a non-Force based form of precognition similar, if not identical, to the Echani's. Still respond to this though, since I want you to actually try to argue otherwise until Avellone brings down the hammer so I'm more satisfied with you enduring another defeat.