Darth Vader vs. Exar Kun

Hey Neph; what makes these trainees so powerful? There ability to effect inanimate objects, lmao. Because neither of them has any worthwile feats against actual Force sensitive, only rock hurling and TIE destroying. Good thing Starkiller feats blow that out of the water by a drastic degree, and so does his accolades. And Vader was able to consistently TK him while arguably holding back, before become "far more formidable combatant" and further increasing his power again in RotJ.

Also, 'Killer utterly demolishing Galen clones that shared the same attributes Marek had to a lesser, or greater extent, shows he can indeed use that power on strong Force sensitives kek.

I thought 'Killer busted 150m? If it's 75m, he's not that strong, lol.

Has Kun done something of that magnitude?

No

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Has Kun done something of that magnitude?

Originally posted by Deronn_solo
Starkiller would phuck those trainees up, lmao. Collectively, their feats still pail in comparison to busting half a 150 meter frigate, while simultaneously erecting barriers powerful enough to deflect star level heat.

Destroying a few TIE Fighters, and hurling rocks is trash in comparison, even when timed by 6, kek. Vader TK advantage is basically cemented, tbh.

Still ignoring context? Vader fanboys are cute.

Anyway Exar Kun >> Master Luke > DE Luke > ROTJ Luke = ROTJ Vader.

I'm still waiting for some pre-prime frigate busting from Exar, TBH.

Nah lifting the much larger Corsair, hundreds of feet into the air, is just as impressive and is a pre-prime feat for Exar Kun. Or you could take the fact he's canonically more powerful than Tulak Hord, who pulled a Harmmerhead cruiser sized ship out of the sky. Or that he's much more powerful than Master Luke, who goes on to be capable of ripping hulls off of star destroyers in Specters of the Past.

It's not stated he lifted the Corsair telekinetically and the latter is just a rumor built on nothing. GG Kun's best TK feat is killing an old man

Lmfao he's stated to do it in the same way as Darth Nihilus, no amount of laughable damage control on the part of the Vader fanboys can change that.

Khem Val's statement > supposed holding back from Vader.

Whilst pre-prime, shrugging off the most powerful attack of Odan-Urr, before one-shotting a Jedi more powerful than Thon, who is manipulating an extremely powerful planet scale dark side nexus that was capable of reducing Bane to near insanity, is more impressive than kinda-but-not-really Force gripping a mid flight Starkiller before Starkiller tears him apart.

Still trying to see that quote off despite the fact Temp and co. debunked it ages ago. 😂

Disentergrating matter >>> moving it, LMAO.

And Tulak Hord moving the ship was never shown, only lip-service. We have no idea the amount of effort was even put into it, or if he even did it at all. I would say that vastly inferior to Vader collapsing a colossul cathedral that sported a undergorund labyrinth while half dead, and willing himself alive, decades before hitting his prime and miniscule-to- significant upgrades in power is more impressive anyway.

Temp debunked it? That's laughable, he attempted to misinterpret the statement and completely ignored the obvious implications. His entire claim relies upon a book being subtle when that book actively wanks absolutely everything about the era.

Helping to disintegrate a ship already being ripped apart by re-entry you mean, but you wouldn't want to acknowledge context, would you Deronn?

Tulak Hord ripped the ship out of the sky, according to Khem Val, who has no reason to BS about him.

Master Luke rips apart a mountain sized fortress before putting it back together, but Kun it still stated to be far more powerful than him as of Jedi Academy.

That quote was debunked in seven different ways yeah.

And where is Kun stated to be far more powerful than JA Luke? Lol.

Ripping a ship out of the sky is an incredibly vague feat - at its worst, it's just doing something that gravity would do on its own, lol.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Still ignoring context? Vader fanboys are cute.

Anyway Exar Kun >> Master Luke > DE Luke > ROTJ Luke = ROTJ Vader.

This is usually my case, but the thing is that, firstly, Luke was blindsided/surrounded by Kun's attacks and couldn't strike back because Kun was incorporeal, and secondly, Luke didn't know about his sorcery - Vader would.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Ripping a ship out of the sky is an incredibly vague feat - at its worst, it's just doing something that gravity would do on its own, lol.

And if you think that Starkiller's ship feats are overhyped when you look at context, that's a perfect reason not to take incredibly vague third-hand descriptions of what Kun may or may not have done as gospel.

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And let's not even get started on his SD feat.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
That quote was debunked in seven different ways yeah.

And where is Kun stated to be far more powerful than JA Luke? Lol.

"What happened to you?"
"Kyp didn't like the menu." I winced as a twing rang through my ribs. "We had a discussion in the hallway, you didn't feel anything?" Heads all around the hallway shook, and I felt a cold dread begin to congeal in my stomach. If Exar Kun could mask the attack on me in such a way that Master Skywalker could not feel it barely fifteen meters away, then we were up against something more powerful than I'd cared to imagine existing.
-_Star Wars: I, Jedi Audiobook

Uh, you could use that to conclude that Ben Skywalker > Darth Caedus and Palpatine > the entire Jedi Order.

Not even remotely, he was more powerful than Horn had imagined existing, making him more powerful than Luke.

Like you realise denying evidence doesn't make it go away right? 😂