Dallas Police Ambushed by Snipers

Started by Surtur14 pages

Originally posted by NemeBro
How's about you stop trying to fight irrelevant bullshit arguments with more irrelevant bullshit arguments?

Also, you brought it up here, on the forum, where to my knowledge no one said he was some saint. For what purpose? To vent? This isn't your blog.

Damn you're dumb. Who said I was talking about just people specifically on this forum? I was talking about the way society and the media in general tend to respond.

Do you comprehend this? Do you comprehend that when I say "people automatically make him a saint" I do not just mean specifically on this forum? Yes? No? Maybe so?

Stop talking about the comprehension skills of others when you act like this. You can surely disagree the info about his criminal background doesn't matter, but as long as people are going to act like any black killed by a cop is an automatic saint? It matters.

Oh and again just so we're clear since I know you have trouble: when I say "people" I do not just mean people from this forum.

Do you understand the distinction? Yes or no. Just respond letting us all know you understand. If you respond in an asinine way just hurling insults we'll know you are still having trouble.

National Bureau of Economic Research: Police Shootings Show No Racial Bias, Research Organization Study Finds
The NBER study of 1,332 police shootings between 2000 and 2015 found bias in use of force, but not shootings. Author Roland G. Fryer Jr. said it was "the most surprising result of my career."

Originally posted by Surtur

Quick question: if Anton Sterling was a law abiding citizen would he be alive? Would there of been anything to film? It's always the logic of "maybe if the cops didn't do this or that". What about the criminals? This one guy had a rap sheet 46 pages long lol. Don't you think that has anything to do with why he is dead? That he lived a life of crime? The cops were called because he was apparently waving a gun in some dudes face. He wasn't some meek guy just selling CD's who was loving and caring.

Did you read my post? This article isn't about Sterling. It's about the cops purposely targeting a guy for posting the video. Are you going to say he deserved to be arrested because he posted the video?

Originally posted by Surtur

I'm sorry but this is a cop out and you know it. The most well known group today in this country is BLM. Why not use your notoriety to go after the greatest harm to the black community? Which is the black on black violence. Use your clout to target the real issues. That is like if the FBI spent their time trying to catch purse snatchers.

They're only the most well known group because they have the most news coverage, and you know the news is sensationalist when it comes to picking it's stories.

And you're comparing police corruption to pursue snatching? Criminals are supposed to be violent, whereas cops have a government obligation to be honorable. If the government don't honor their obligations, why would anybody trust it?

You see this so mypoically. I'll break it down for you. Cops purposely target minorities to fill their paycheck quotas and give them hardcore prison time for non violent offenses, usually for having drugs. These minorities are indoctrinated into prison gangs and when they are released, they spread their prison gang mentality to youths and peers.
Here goes an article of several whistleblowers exposing how the NYPD purposely targets minorities to meet quotas: http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nypd-quotas-new-york-city-police-department-bill-bratton-edwin-raymond-370118201.html

"It’s illegal and it’s immoral and it’s unethical so they can never admit to it," said Edwin Raymond, an 8-year veteran of the NYPD. “But it exists and it’s very real.”

The pressure on officers for quotas is so great that predominately white neighborhoods are "actually policed" while "black and Hispanic neighborhoods are hunted,” said Raymond, who was born in raised in East Flatbush. _He said the quotas result in innocent people getting into legal trouble for "innocuous behavior."_

These innocent people persecuted by the cops you love are tragically indoctrinated through undeservedly harsh prison to become the thugs you hate.

These innocent people persecuted by the cops you love are tragically indoctrinated through undeservedly harsh prison to become the thugs you hate.

I can't tell if this is a sad rationalization based on delusion, or if you've completely lost your mind. Either way, carry on 👆

The fact you can only respond with insults rather than empirical refutation proves how ignorant you are. IMO you're just a contrarian trolling for attention with nothing to actually add.

Originally posted by Lestov16
The fact you can only respond with insults rather than empirical refutation proves how ignorant you are. IMO you're just a contrarian trolling for attention with nothing to actually add.

This coming from someone who responds to facts and rational arguments with idiotic red herrings based on biases and agendas. Stop embarrassing yourself, you're making all the liberals on this forum look bad with your ignorance and stupidity.

Widespread police corruption in Chicago

http://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/Chicago-Police-Officers-Allegations-of-Corruption-291607971.html

Jeez, Surtur. You didn't tell me you guys had your own CRASH Unit. And you wonder why blacks in your city are so violent and apprehensive towards police lol

You really think that between cops and criminals, it is the criminals who have a legal obligation to be honorable?

This kind of authoritarian corruption is justifiable, yet it's horrible when Hillary does it? What is the difference between the FBI essentially pardoning her and the CPD "blue wall of silence" essentially pardoning police brutality?

At what level do you allow an authoritarian police state. I remember complaints about that Oregon protester getting shot, and yet NOW it's okay to shoot to kill.

<Article only mentions 2 cops as having done something wrong
<Uses personal biases to call this widespread corruption instead of using the word "alleged" because it makes him feel better, even in the face of facts.

You're on a roll today junior 👆

Are you serious? The article talks about how they were blackballed by the department and their live were threatened for whistleblowing.

And you wonder why minorities call you white people racist. I post articles detailing police corruption and you treat them like they're tabloids. You clearly have no empathy or respect for our opinion. You enjoy belittling and being intellectually superior to us, as shown with how patronizing your posts are. You clearly have no desire to be equal to us. I just saw a post on here talking about how sub-saharan Africans (and thus their African-American descendants) are supposedly another species.

Watch how you'll respond to this with yet another insulting post rather than some documented facts. Again, you have no regard for our opinion, because you don't view us as equal. Your myopic opinion is superior IYO. Racism has evolved from overt hostility to subtle snobbery. I can guarantee your next post will be some insulting nonsense.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Are you serious? The article talks about how they were blackballed by the department and their live were threatened for whistleblowing.

And you wonder why minorities call you white people racist. I post articles detailing police corruption and you treat them like they're tabloids. You clearly have no empathy or respect for our opinion. You enjoy belittling and being intellectually superior to us, as shown with how patronizing your posts are. You clearly have no desire to be equal to us. I just saw a post on here talking about how sub-saharan Africans (and thus their African-American descendants) are supposedly another species.

Watch how you'll respond to this with yet another insulting post rather than some documented facts. Again, you have no regard for our opinion, because you don't view us as equal. Your myopic opinion is superior IYO. Racism has evolved from overt hostility to subtle snobbery. I can guarantee your next post will be some insulting nonsense.

More ignorant drivel based on zero facts and full emotion. You mix it up with accusations of more isms and more weak rationalizations. Like i said yesterday, you aren't interested in facts or dialogue, you just want your agenda pushed. So sad. Now please tell me that racism still exists and how i deny it.

Again, if you actually cared to read the articles I'm posting you'd see multiple examples of racism from the police departments of multiple cities. But you don't care about reading the articles, for it is you who isn't interested in facts or dialogue. You just want to continue your contrarian trolling for attention. It's sad and pathetic.

Jeez, you're not only ignorant but hypocritical. No wonder you have such a myopic worldview.

Since you don't want to read my articles and thus have no interests in facts or dialogue, I'll be placing you on ignore, so don't look for a response to your next inevitable troll post.

Since you don't want to read my articles and thus have no interests in facts or dialogue, I'll be placing you on ignore, so don't look for a response to your next inevitable troll post.

Translation: I can't argue logically or use facts but I want to continue peddling my useless agenda on here so I'm going to use the "it's not me it's you" rationalization and continue embarrassing myself for the duration of my stay here.

I read all your articles, you read none of mine. You can't call anyone hypocritical or having a myopic world view because you're delusional and stuck in your little bubble.

And you're right, I have zero respect for you which has nothing to do with your race or ethnicity. I don't respect you because you can't present an argument in a rational, logical, and constructive manner. Instead you use personal agendas and confirmation bias, as well as strawman and red herring fallacies to get your point across, and nobody has bought it any point in time.

Finally, I have friends who are black/white/indian/Muslim and not one of them ever employs the "woe is me" victim mentality on your level. That's why you don't have people's respect, to say nothing of everyone you insult with your ridiculous double standards. But keep posting because it makes other people feel better about their intelligence 👆

Originally posted by Surtur
The data showed there wasn't a racial bias when it came to shootings. After that the "data" I was talking about wasn't from those stats, but from the high homicide rate of this race.

So it was an irrelevant tangent. My bad, I briefly forgot that you're a stupid retard who can't keep himself focused.

The data makes blacks look bad in the sense of the narrative they put forth is cops are shooting and killing them due to racism. That data+ the homicide data is what I'm talking about.

While racism may or may not be the cause, in many of these cases the shootings are entirely at the fault of the police officers, which they claim.

As opposed to someone who can just call people retarded or stupid over and over? Or with your asinine child molester insult?

I call you a stupid retard and a child molester because you are both of those things my pea-brained pal.

That people need to stop acting like the life choices of this criminal didn't play a part.

In the Sterling case? It didn't.

Are you learning disabled? I listed the reasons why I brought it up, because people act like these people are automatically saints. When that stops being done I'll stop mentioning it.

"People" lmao. So you come onto forums to debate with strawmen you propped up as opposed to the people here?

This isn't your phucking blog you stupid phaggot, shut the phuck up.

Oh, and I am considerably smarter than you or anyone in the history of the world.

Because dipshits act like the thug wasn't a thug?

Read above.

Of course they won't say it, they don't have the balls.

Oh look the parrot is mimicking my words again. Is that what you are, a parrot? Are you just some simpleton who repeats what others say to him? It would explain your disordered shit-tier rambling.

The data shows there isn't a bias in shootings, which is what blacks constantly claim.

"Blacks" lmao, the little guy is continuing to generalize the thoughts of an entire race (if you don't think you just did that, which I'm sure your stupid ass doesn't, you should kill yourself and perhaps learn English).

Also, some data shows there is a bias.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-police-shootings-race-20160711-story.html

In absolute terms, yeah, whites were killed more than blacks.

But relative to their population, blacks were 2.5 times more likely to be killed by police. Furthermore, blacks who are lethally shot by police officers were found less likely to be posing an imminent lethal threat to the police officer, and there was found to be no correlation between blacks committing more violent crime as well as them being more likely to be killed by police.

But people shouldn't blame the cops for all the problems blacks face.

Who does? People tend to blame the police for the whole "You're murdering people of our race without following proper procedure" thing, which in the case of the Sterling and Castile is 100% true. 👆

And while there is some data which supports that blacks aren't actually more likely to be shot by police (there's also data which supports the opposite btw), what makes people truly angry is that what seems to be a significant portion of the time officers get very little punishment for killing black men without cause. Any data on that?

Once again you insult others while at the same time showing your own lack of comprehension. When people stop acting like every single black guy killed by a cop is a saint then this information won't be relevant. But they haven't stopped, it still happens.

Read above you shit-flinging butt monkey. This isn't your phucking blog, no one gives a shit about your sissy rants against people you believe to exist.

The victim being a criminal also has everything to do with the shooting: he only came to the cops attention due to criminal acts. If he had been a law abiding citizen he would still be alive. This is a fact. It doesn't mean he deserved to die, it just means he would still be alive if he wasn't a piece of shit who would break the law, wave a gun in a dudes face, etc.

No, none of this is relevant to him being shot you stupid moron, not unless he was posing a threat to the police officer who shot him (seems like he wasn't). Him being a criminal means nothing.

This is about the bigger picture. It's about the constant need for people to automatically apply saint hood to just utter pieces of shit. A person can be a piece of shit without deserving to die, but it doesn't mean we act like their own choices didn't put these events into motion.

We don't talk about their own choices because they don't matter when discussing whether or not the police officer murdered them.

Why bring up his apparent lack of morality? To make you feel good about yourself? Don't be such a bltch.

Originally posted by krisblaze
His point, as I understood, was that he was one of the many criminals that have contributed to police profiling.
Go on.

Originally posted by Surtur
Damn you're dumb. Who said I was talking about just people specifically on this forum? I was talking about the way society and the media in general tend to respond.

No one cares shithead.

Do you comprehend this? Do you comprehend that when I say "people automatically make him a saint" I do not just mean specifically on this forum? Yes? No? Maybe so?

I understand perfectly, I understand that you're a phaggot who rants against people who don't exist on this forum and appear to be dangerously insane and possibly schizophrenic.

Stop talking about the comprehension skills of others when you act like this. You can surely disagree the info about his criminal background doesn't matter, but as long as people are going to act like any black killed by a cop is an automatic saint? It matters.

No, it means nothing when discussing police brutality/executions.

Oh and again just so we're clear since I know you have trouble: when I say "people" I do not just mean people from this forum.

Do you understand the distinction? Yes or no. Just respond letting us all know you understand. If you respond in an asinine way just hurling insults we'll know you are still having trouble.

You do understand that this is not your blog and that the purpose of a forum is to discuss a variety of topics with other people, right?

If you want to discuss the public perception of the victims of police shootings (for whatever reason), then make your own thread you retard.

Though, the biggest reason I give you a hard time (truth time!) is that you're very transparent in your biases. You only get this worked up about one side of it, in any topic. You rant and cry about "people" (usually the victim's friends and family, God forbid they not view someone they cared about who died as a piece of shit you stupid little cvnt) making the victim out to be a "saint", or about how much black people suck and the problems in the black community are because they are largely terrible people, but only touch on the opposite point of view when called out on it ("LOOK IM NOT SAYING HE DESERVED TO DIE IM JUST SAYING HE'D STILL BE ALIVE IF HE WASN'T A PIECE OF SHIT" [which reminds me, why do you keep defending your phaggot ass by saying you're not saying he deserved to die? Deserve's got nothing to do with it]).

Because you're a cuckservitive racist Surtur. You're of the same piece of shit breed as Star (as opposed to conservatives like Dave who I don't necessarily agree with but I don't believe he's a racist), but too much of a coward to be as open about it, which also unfortunately makes you much less amusing.

I now see my original mistake. I assumed that people could understand as well as they typed. I now see the level I must drop to in order for boy genius to understand. I would have assumed he and his tag team partner would get together and at least attempt to wrap their pea brains around my thoughts.

Jesus calm down dude. Flaming is against forum rules.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Go on.

And that criminals have to accept some responsibility.

Police murders don't take place in a contextual vacuum.

And neither does crime obviously, which the other side of the debate often has a hard time acknowledging 😛

As stated, the same people saying Philando Castle deserved to die in front of his family for reaching for his wallet are the same people who believe Oregon terrorist Robert Finicum did not deserve to die even though he was outright threatening police officers with a gun.

The racism is sickening.