Star Wars: The Last Jedi · Movie Discussion

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Originally posted by quanchi112
People in here are crying and seeking for others to not watch any future films. You don't like the new characters. I'm the only poster on here who loves Snoke and also backs up Kylo Ren as a superior villain than Vader. Just go rewatch the originals if that's your thing.

I think you're misunderstanding me. Of the 3 Disney movies so far I liked 2 of them. Just because I don't like the last one means that I am giving up and starting a smear campaign.

Heck I like Rebels TV show and a lot of people shit on that.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm not saying it's not making bank, just not as much as it could have.

That’s nonsensical. No one was ever expecting this to make as much as TFA. It’s drop off from the first film of the trilogy is also the norm for Star Wars trilogies.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think you're misunderstanding me. Of the 3 Disney movies so far I liked 2 of them. Just because I don't like the last one means that I am giving up and starting a smear campaign.
Heck I like Rebels TV show and a lot of people shit on that.

Well don't act like you want it to fail. Anyone who says they hate the film and repeatedly says so along with taking part on an active compaign against the brand isn't a true fan.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well don't act like you want it to fail. Anyone who says they hate the film and repeatedly says so along with taking part on an active compaign against the brand isn't a true fan.

I call them how I see them and this movie was shit.

A pile of shit that made ALOT of money.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I call them how I see them and this movie was shit.
A pile of shit that made ALOT of money.

Yes, you hate the film and continue to say it. Move on. I loved it and am loving it rape at the box office.

**** the haters.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well don't act like you want it to fail. Anyone who says they hate the film and repeatedly says so along with taking part on an active compaign against the brand isn't a true fan.

Quan you shat on R1, so I guess you’re not a true fan either. Not even of “Disney” Star Wars.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Quan you shat on R1, so I guess you’re not a true fan either. Not even of “Disney” Star Wars.

No, I saw it twice. I didn't want it to fail. I love the newer characters though while you favor the Ot ones. I'm a new trilogy guy and I want new ideas to be explored not the same era.

Force Awakens > Rogue One. You never cared for Snoke or Kylo. You're a Vader and Ot guy.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I saw it twice. I didn't want it to fail. I love the newer characters though while you favor the Ot ones. I'm a new trilogy guy and I want new ideas to be explored not the same era.
Force Awakens > Rogue One. You never cared for Snoke or Kylo. You're a Vader and Ot guy.

Lol Rogue One shits all over TFA.

No, I’m a George Lucas Star Wars guy. You know the guy who all your Disney guys are trying to imitate, but just can’t seem to pull it off.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lol Rogue One shits all over TFA.
No, I’m a George Lucas Star Wars guy. You know the guy who all your Disney guys are trying to imitate, but just can’t seem to pull it off.

He can't grasp that fact.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Also funny how you shit all over Vader, but then jump on board all the Vader wannabe villains.

You’re probably one of those lame Superman haters who who jumps all over Gladiator 😂

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Lol Rogue One shits all over TFA.
No, I’m a George Lucas Star Wars guy. You know the guy who all your Disney guys are trying to imitate, but just can’t seem to pull it off.

No, but you don't see value in the newer characters. That's fine. You were way more excited for Rogue One than any of the newer trilogy films. I am completely opposed to you.

Disney is making Star Wars better than Lucas ever could. Look at the characters they've given me already. Lucas is overrated and created it good for him. His time is done and he sold his rights so cry to him. He left it to Disney.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Also funny how you shit all over Vader, but then jump on board all the Vader wannabe villains.
You’re probably one of those lame Superman haters who who jumps all over Gladiator 😂

Emotions. Kylo destroyed the helmet. He is his own man. You are just basing everything off your own perspective with childish insults. You don't like Snoke or Kylo I get it. You can watch rogue one and the Ot to get your Vader fix.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, but you don't see value in the newer characters. That's fine. You were way more excited for Rogue One than any of the newer trilogy films. I am completely opposed to you.
Disney is making Star Wars better than Lucas ever could. Look at the characters they've given me already. Lucas is overrated and created it good for him. His time is done and he sold his rights so cry to him. He left it to Disney.

Yes because R1 actually did original stuff. And didnâ€™t have a Mary Sue.

Lol if Disney were so great they should have made their own multi billion dollar fantasy franchise. But instead they had to purchase Star Wars from Lucas. Go figure.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes because R1 actually did original stuff. And didnâ€™t have a Mary Sue.
Lol if Disney were so great they should have made their own multi billion dollar fantasy franchise. But instead they had to purchase Star Wars from Lucas. Go figure.

And so did the Last Jedi. It's also about the characters while Abrams gave me Snoke and Kylo. Hey you don't care for them which is fine. I'm one of the only posters who loves both of them in their top three Star Wars characters. I'm very excited for Rian Johnson's new trilogy. Disney gives me greatness.

Lucas sold it. That's reality. He had years to add more films. The man is a lazy ****.

Disney did create their own MCU. That is a machine in and of itself. Disney is a force in the movie business.

Josh_Alexander Keeper of Cosmic Balance

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, it isn't. It's going to smash Rogue One. I bet it'll also smash Han Solo. As usual I'm the voice of reason.

Except Rogue One was even worse! That doesnt make it a good film, it makes it a less mediocre film.

You call that reason?

Placidity Chief Executive Officer

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't like the new characters. I'm the only poster on here who loves Snoke and also backs up Kylo Ren as a superior villain than Vader. Just go rewatch the originals if that's your thing.

Actually I liked Snoke as a character, definitely had potential. I thought Andy Serkis did a great job.

That people disagree with you on his power level is a completely different thing.

All the mystery built up around him in TFA. Everyone was speculating who he may have been - Only to be killed off immediately with no answers. I'm sure you loved how this character was treated though. It couldn't have been any better.

On the other hand, Kylo Ren has nothing going for him. Weak in acting, character, and power.

BTW, Rian didn't only completely undermine the OT/PT, which I know you are happy about, but also TFA. Jar Jar Abrams was building up storylines for:

- Rey's past
- Snoke's background and motivations. Abrams said Snoke was "ancient".
- Knights of Ren - completely discarded
- Why Luke was in hiding - wasn't to just "die" as per TFA

All of these are lazily or incoherently addressed, or not at all.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Placidity
Actually I liked Snoke as a character, definitely had potential. I thought Andy Serkis did a great job.
That people disagree with you on his power level is a completely different thing.
All the mystery built up around him in TFA. Everyone was speculating who he may have been - Only to be killed off immediately with no answers. I'm sure you loved how this character was treated though. It couldn't have been any better.

Ok, so you liked him but he was my favorite from the last one. His voice, his dialogue, his look and his mannerisms were the best from any Star Wars character to me. We don't know everything about him at this point. So ?

Anyone's opinion on what they should do is probably different but I'm not the director I go with the facts not in my own world like many of the upset fans with this film. His mystery is still there, it wasn't pivotal to the plot of this film, and we don't know what's going to happen next. This will be explored later at some point.

On the other hand, Kylo Ren has nothing going for him. Weak in acting, character, and power.
BTW, Rian didn't only completely undermine the OT/PT, which I know you are happy about, but also TFA. Jar Jar Abrams was building up storylines for:
- Rey's past
- Snoke's background and motivations. Abrams said Snoke was "ancient".
- Knights of Ren - completely discarded
- Why Luke was in hiding - wasn't to just "die" as per TFA
All of these are lazily or incoherently addressed, or not at all. [/B]

Kylo Ren is no Snoke to me but that's fine.

He's a great actor, is quick to anger, and quite impulsive. That's what makes him Kylo thus far at this point in his journey. What he did was more about his own survival and these bad guys are quite selfish and always looking to backstab each other when the situation presents itself. This isn't new. Vader was musing about overthrowing Sidious to Padme back in the prequels.

We don't need everything addressed already. If you hate this about the films that's fine. You clearly didn't enjoy the film but I did. You're too worried about your own preconceived notions of the film to judge it fairly.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Except Rogue One was even worse! That doesnt make it a good film, it makes it a less mediocre film.
You call that reason?

Darth Thor and plenty of others disagree and loved Rogue One. It wasn't bad but it wasn't as good as the Force Awakens either.

You don't really know what you're talking about though. You don't understand your own points.

Darth Thor Senior Member

Originally posted by quanchi112

Kylo Ren is no Snoke to me but that's fine.

You’re a shit Kylo Ren fan.

Kylo beat Snoke fair and square. Well about as fair as Dark Side betrayals go.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Darth Thor
You’re a shit Kylo Ren fan.
Kylo beat Snoke fair and square. Well about as fair as Dark Side betrayals go.

No, I'm objective. Kylo can't beat Snoke straight up. The film made it clear he needed to wait to when Snoke had his guard down. You ignore your own logic if it's Luke Skywalker.

Snoke is the most powerful force user we have ever seen. It's painfully obvious so don't run from the facts embrace them. You call Ren a Vader wannabe so you clearly think he's trash tbh. Mine is a difference of opinion yours is openly disrespecting the character.