Star Wars: The Last Jedi

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Originally posted by AuraAngel
The weird thing is the film seems to want to have it both ways. Poe helps destroy the Dreadnaught at the cost of a significant portion of their forces. This leads Holdo to not trust him though at the same time not really doing anything to impede him should he try something.

When Poe did get a huge percentage killed with his utterly terrible hacker plan in addition to staging a full on mutiny, nothing was really done to him at all. It seems he is destined to be the new leader of the rebellion and all he did was fail lol.

What could she do ? Their forces were pathetic and he's the Michael Jordan of piloting. She's stuck with him especially in those dire circumstances. In a perfect world without the safety of your entire operation at odds you're damn right there'd be more severe measures but it's an imperfect world or situation.

He did what he believed was best for the resistance so his heart was in the right place but again they needed him so what could they really do ?

What I loved about the film was the back and forth. Sure, they fought back against the first order but every time you think they'd get ahead the first order would capitalize raising the stakes of the situation. It wasn't boring or one sided. The desperation of the resistance never stopped either until Luke had to pull the fake out to get the remainder of the resistance to escape aboard the M. Falcon.

Fantastic film which explored the greyness of war with only the profiteers truly excelling. Johnson made a fantastic film. Highly rewatchable with quite a few unforgettable moments.

Yes I think Rian’s Storytelling has been under appreciated.

But he still unnecessarily dragged the film with the Rose/Finn looking for the hacker side story.

Originally posted by Mindset
A really stupid part of the movie was how Admiral Holdo didn't tell Poe her whole plan. Kinda ruined everything and got a bunch of their people killed.

That's one of the many plot holes and errors in the movie!

It was hilarious tbh. She always had a plan, yet somehow she decided it wasn't important to share it!

It was also hilarious to see that Mandator 4 being destroyed and overwhelmed by a single rebel aircraft! 😂 How stupid!

Originally posted by Nephthys
He'd just gotten 80% of their forces destroyed through insubordination and gotten demoted and he was trying to act as if he still had a place in the decision making process (I think its likely he was hoping she wouldn't know he'd been demoted and was trying to pull one over on her) If she had told him the plan who knows what he'd have done. He may well have strongly disagreed with it or come up with a reckless plan of his own to hurt the FO. And he wasn't really being that humble, he tried to explain the situation to her at first as if she didn't know about it and he clearly thought he should have been the leader instead. Sure, acting aggressively towards him turned out to not be the right call but she had every justification to do so considering what he'd just done.

Everything would have been avoided if Poe hadn't of flown off the handle and had trusted Leia's trust in Holdo. Poe had just proven himself to be reckless and insubordinate. Holdo had no reason to tell him the plan nor obligation to do so.

There was literally no reason not to tell Poe the plan. The only reason it happened was to give Finn and Rose a side quest.

From Poe's perspective, and from the audience's perspective, Holdo had no clue what she was doing. I'm not sure why you're trying to defend this sloppy storytelling.

Anyway, the film wasn't as bad as some people said it was, but it definitely wasn't that good.

Rey is still getting stronger and better with the force with no training...ok.
Snoke went out like an absolute b!tch...cool, I guess.
I liked Kylo more this movie though.

Originally posted by Mindset

I liked Kylo more this movie though.

Oh yeah he massively improved.

With the characters we have now I'd actually like to see a movie more about Kylo/FO than the resistance tbh.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh yeah he massively improved.

Yeah i agree.

I liked how Kylo finally overcame his obsession with Vader.

Originally posted by Mindset
Anyway, the film wasn't as bad as some people said it was, but it definitely wasn't that good.

Rey is still getting stronger and better with the force with no training...ok.
Snoke went out like an absolute b!tch...cool, I guess.
I liked Kylo more this movie though.

Ok you are wrong about Snoke. How is being betrayed through a sneak attack bad ? We see and hear about it all the time in the Star Wars mythos. The apprentice usually tries to take out the master sooner or later. Kylo couldn't directly take him on we saw what happened earlier in the film.

Snoke was playing with his equal Rey in a manner we have never witnessed in all Star Wars canon. She was extremely power to make Luke shit his hermit pants.

Going out like a ***** is right here.

^ Oh stop whining.

Kylo took down Snoke. Which makes both Kylo and this trilogy far better. At the expense of Snoke? Sure. But no one cares about that.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Oh stop whining.

Kylo took down Snoke. Which makes both Kylo and this trilogy far better. At the expense of Snoke? Sure. But no one cares about that.

Deal with it.

Without him being aware (we still don't know how the trilogy will end). Snoke is already the best character in all of Star Wars. He already proved his superior power to all previous dark siders.

Deal with Kylo smashing Vader's helmet and evolving past him. Both characters are greater than their Ot predecessors.

^^I bet even the space maggots didn't wanna touch this f*cker.

Quit spamming the same images without spoilers. You'll ruin this for someone else, jobless cuck.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Oh stop whining.

Kylo took down Snoke. Which makes both Kylo and this trilogy far better. At the expense of Snoke? Sure. But no one cares about that.

Deal with it.

😂

Snoke vs Kylo. Whose Quanchi's favorite?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
😂

Snoke vs Kylo. Whose Quanchi's favorite?

Is your favorite Tarking ?

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit spamming the same images without spoilers. You'll ruin this for someone else, jobless cuck.

No ones using spoilers in this thread anymore.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Quit spamming the same images without spoilers. You'll ruin this for someone else, jobless cuck.

Deal with it little one.

^^Your hero.

Originally posted by Surtur

^^I bet even the space maggots didn't wanna touch this f*cker.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No ones using spoilers in this thread anymore.
Images is a different animal and you can't unsee it.

Surtur, you're upset I can see the film multiple times whereas you can't afford it. You're poor.