Originally posted by ares834The Poe holding for Hux scene was terrible? I'm not sure where this kind of cynicism comes from??? The humor in the scene is derived from plot and is therefore meaningful and has a purpose. In the scene, Poe is explicitly stalling. It's very reminiscent of the Han "How are you" scene on the death star in ANH.
The acting? I thought it was fine. The scene itself was pretty terrible though but that was due to the forced humor.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWYou're just pointing at things and crying. It would be a more interesting criticism if you were able to explain why the Maz scene for example is vomit-worthy?
It was f*cking horrible.What about Finn's youtube-worthy webisode being shoehorned into the ****ing movie...?
Or Maz? *vomits*
Originally posted by Firefly218
The Poe holding for Hux scene was terrible? I'm not sure where this kind of cynicism comes from??? The humor in the scene is derived from plot and is therefore meaningful and has a purpose. In the scene, Poe is explicitly stalling. It's very reminiscent of the Han "How are you" scene on the death star in ANH.
No, it’s not. Han’s is funny becomes it stems from his incompetence. He tries to talk his way out and fails… badly. The scene in TLJ is just Poe trolling Hux. It’s the “this is serious but our characters aren’t taking it serious haha so funny” kind of humor that feels completely out of place in SW.
Originally posted by ares834It's fine if you don't find the humor itself to be effective, that's a very subjective thing. But you also called it "forced humor" and chalked up the entire interaction to "Poe trolling Hux".
No, it’s not. Han’s is funny becomes it stems from his incompetence. He tries to talk his way out and fails… badly. The scene in TLJ is just Poe trolling Hux. It’s the “this is serious but our characters aren’t taking it serious haha so funny” kind of humor that feels completely out of place in SW.
You might be correct on both counts if we're taking this humor entirely out of the context in which it belongs, but we're not.
It is not "forced humor" as it stems from the character's bravado, in a similar way that Han's line stems from his incompetence. And it is not just "Poe trolling Hux", as within the context of the scene we see explicitly that Poe is stalling the First Order.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Mind clarifying? I don't know what point you're trying to make.
you lack skills then... despite the haters, people are still spending their money on this. clearly they like what they see... once again nobody cares about what rt or imdb or metacritic or what the fake audeince score says. those that do care about rt, etc., have issues since they cannot form their own opinion on whether or not to see something. it is like kylo says "let the past die..kill it." folks like living in the past and can't except things to move on. I love star wars especially the skywalker family yet i have no problem with them creating new characters. besides it doesn;t even matter what i say on here or what you or others say here anyway given the fact that disney doesn;t even know this place exists. i have no problem with people hating this, let them, they have the right. just like i have the right to enjioy and love this.
I’m sorry but a “your mom” joke can’t just brushed aside because a character has bravado and is stalling. Yes, the scene could have been humorous with Poe saying something cocky and sure it had a purpose. But they forced in a god damned “your mom” joke.
Ultimately, this accurately sums up my feelings on many of this film’s (and TFA’s) jokes:
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
you lack skills then... despite the haters, people are still spending their money on this. clearly they like what they see... once again nobody cares about what rt or imdb or metacritic or what the fake audeince score says. those that do care about rt, etc., have issues since they cannot form their own opinion on whether or not to see something. it is like kylo says "let the past die..kill it." folks like living in the past and can't except things to move on. I love star wars especially the skywalker family yet i have no problem with them creating new characters. besides it doesn;t even matter what i say on here or what you or others say here anyway given the fact that disney doesn;t even know this place exists. i have no problem with people hating this, let them, they have the right. just like i have the right to enjioy and love this.
I was just asking a question; you didn't have to be mean about it.
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As far as the Hux/Poe scene goes, I thought it was badly done because it was very... It's not a joke that will age well. Han not being able to think on his feet isn't a joke that will age. Poe's cell-phone esque "can you hear me now?" thing... That wasn't very good.
It's a shame too, as I liked the actual action scene otherwise, even with weirdly slow bombers.
We've established that the scene is true to character and to story, but now your brand new criticism of the scene simply can't be helped. It is a matter of personal taste if you don't like "your mother" jokes or the color yellow or the sound of church bells, there's not reasoning behind it.
Anyways, I don't understand the ridiculous amount of criticism this beautiful movie is receiving. I haven't yet seen anyone with a legitimate criticism who cares to explain their reasoning.
Originally posted by -Pr-I think the idea of miscommunication is beyond cell phones...
As far as the Hux/Poe scene goes, I thought it was badly done because it was very... It's not a joke that will age well. Han not being able to think on his feet isn't a joke that will age. Poe's cell-phone esque "can you hear me now?" thing... That wasn't very good.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Like who? Name some KMCers.
Well WTF Right?!? This flick makes me never want to watch anything Star Wars again.
They literally ruined the mythos and concepts.
Ok Lets start with Rey. She basically gets no training in either of these films and can stand toe to toe with Kylo?!? WHAT THE HELL.
Even Anakin who was considered to have the highest Force Sensitivity counts of all Jedi, could not do the things Rey did....and not even close. She's literally on GodMode in these films and it destroyed any sense of progression or character arc.
I think most of the actors knocked it out of the part (Especially Mark Hamill) but man its just so bad plot and storywise and disregards the lore. Horrible flick.
Its also full of very very bad jokes, contemporary dialogue/wisecracks and bizarre elements.
Originally posted by horrorwolfThat's a criticism of Force Awakens, not Last Jedi. I think this movie does a nice job of knocking her down a peg,
Ok Lets start with Rey. She basically gets no training in either of these films and can stand toe to toe with Kylo?!? WHAT THE HELL.
Spoiler:
she's not special and her parents are nobodies