Anakin Skywalker vs. Mace Windu

Started by Darth Thor10 pages
Originally posted by Syndicate
It's certainly a weakness against a form based around powerful kinetic strikes like Djem So.

Speculation tbh

Given the text says exactly that I'd have to disagree.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Given the text says exactly that I'd have to disagree.

No the text doesn't say that anywhere. Why are we going around in circles? I've already correctly pointed out to you that the word "weakness" is only used to describe Djem So's lack of mobility.

It actually does.

"His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head." - Revenge of the Sith.

Originally posted by Syndicate
All of his fights with darksiders? Doubt it.

Yes.

Ventress, Sora, Vastor, Depa: pre- or in Shatterpoint.
Dooku, Maul: both only lasted like 20sec tops.
Talzin: he actually did good against someone who can go toe to toe with Sidious.
Grievous: not a force user, barely even organic.

And that's all of his duels iirc.

Originally posted by Syndicate
It actually does.

"His own elegant Makashi simply did not generate the kinetic power to meet Djem So head-to-head." - Revenge of the Sith.

I'm sorry I might be going blind, but I don't see "weakness" mentioned anywhere there. Whereas it was specifically mentioned for Djem So.

You also keep missing the second part of that sentence, "especially while fending off a second attacker.."

But once it was 1 v 1, no issue was brought up for Makashi at all. Only for Dooku facing an opponent too powerful for him.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'm sorry I might be going blind, but I don't see "weakness" mentioned anywhere there. Whereas it was specifically mentioned for Djem So.

You also keep missing the second part of that sentence, "especially while fending off a second attacker.."

But once it was 1 v 1, no issue was brought up for Makashi at all. Only for Dooku facing an opponent too powerful for him.

Are you retarded? It says Makashi can't meet Djem So ( Djem So specifically ) head to head. Just because it doesn't say word for word "Makashi is not a great form to combat Djem So and is in fact weak against it." Doesn't mean you can't just look at the text and understand that from what was written.

My god, you are... "Especially" doesn't mean "only." It just means that with two attackers it makes its weakness against Djem So even more pronounced.

An opponent's who's strikes took more energy to block then the energy he used to take Kenobi out of the fight. Who, when using another form couldn't press Dooku in any way.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Yes.

Ventress, Sora, Vastor, Depa: pre- or in Shatterpoint.
Dooku, Maul: both only lasted like 20sec tops.
Talzin: he actually did good against someone who can go toe to toe with Sidious.
Grievous: not a force user, barely even organic.

And that's all of his duels iirc.

Mace wasn't immediately blitzed by Sidious in the first 20 seconds they fought mono e mono. If Vaapad gave him Maul and Dooku's energy he should have been able to defeat them unless they were a good deal more powerful then him.

Dt is retarded.

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So it seems Quan has his first real disciple.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So it seems Quan has his first real disciple.
You are just like Dt.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So it seems Quan has his first real disciple.

You know you're irrelevant, right? Just checking.

Originally posted by Syndicate
You know you're irrelevant, right? Just checking.
😂 😂 😂

Someone's mad.

Annoyed*

Anger takes too much effort and is for the most part voluntary. Annoyance occurs naturally.

Originally posted by Syndicate
You know you're irrelevant, right? Just checking.
He is one the slowest people I've ran across on my internet travels.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Mace wasn't immediately blitzed by Sidious in the first 20 seconds they fought mono e mono. If Vaapad gave him Maul and Dooku's energy he should have been able to defeat them unless they were a good deal more powerful then him.

First of all you are retarded. Secondly Sidious blitzed 3 master before Mace could react 😬

Not to mention Vaapad is not an instant win. Mace should've gotten a significant boost off of Vaapad to beat either in 20second. It took even Yoda 40sec to make Dooku retreat.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
First of all you are retarded. Secondly Sidious blitzed 3 master before Mace could react 😬

Not to mention Vaapad is not an instant win. Mace should've gotten a significant boost off of Vaapad to beat either in 20second. It took even Yoda 40sec to make Dooku retreat.

He killed three lessees and lost to Mace. If you time the attacks of the blitz its laughably slow. They were shit and got killed. Don't make it anything more than it is.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Are you retarded? It says Makashi can't meet Djem So ( Djem So specifically ) head to head. Just because it doesn't say word for word "Makashi is not a great form to combat Djem So and is in fact weak against it." Doesn't mean you can't just look at the text and understand that from what was written.

My god, you are... "Especially" doesn't mean "only." It just means that with two attackers it makes its weakness against Djem So even more pronounced.

An opponent's who's strikes took more energy to block then the energy he used to take Kenobi out of the fight. Who, when using another form couldn't press Dooku in any way.

Ah yes good call to shout out "retarded" when you can't back up your claims and have been called out by multiple posters on it.

The Passage SPECIFICALLY calls Djem So weak to mobility. Yet it doesn't call Makashi weak to anything. Go figure.

The passage SPECIFICALLY noted meeting Djem So head to head was a particular problem WHILST FENDING OFF A SECOND ATTACKER. Once it became 1 v 1 no such clash of forms was mentioned as an issue at all.

Do you know what Makashi even is btw? It's a form of precision and movement. It doesn't need to go head to head to come out superior. It deflects and dodges and redirects with fast and precise foot movements. That's WHY it's mainly used with 1 hand, because it doesn't even try to match strength with strength. And bonus for Force users is 1 hand is free for Force attacks (or punches).

Yes Dooku's OPPONENT's strikes took too much power to Parry as specifically mentioned. No mention Anywhere in that part of the book that Djem So's form was just too difficult to deflect and dodge.

End of you've got no argument here, and the fact that the only person you have backing you up is KMC's biggest Troll and the person with like the Fakest conversion to Star Wars fandom ever, should tell you everything you need to know.

I lol'd when Syndicate called someone retarded.

I think it's silly for makashi to be weak to djem so. Like seriously, it's trumped as the uber dueling form and can't win because the opponent swings their blade too hard?

Not that djem so is just that, but the weakness negates the whole point of makashi.