Anakin Skywalker vs. Mace Windu

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ah yes good call to shout out "retarded" when you can't back up your claims and have been called out by multiple posters on it.

The Passage SPECIFICALLY calls Djem So weak to mobility. Yet it doesn't call Makashi weak to anything. Go figure.

The passage SPECIFICALLY noted meeting Djem So head to head was a particular problem WHILST FENDING OFF A SECOND ATTACKER. Once it became 1 v 1 no such clash of forms was mentioned as an issue at all.

Do you know what Makashi even is btw? It's a form of precision and movement. It doesn't need to go head to head to come out superior. It deflects and dodges and redirects with fast and precise foot movements. That's WHY it's mainly used with 1 hand, because it doesn't even try to match strength with strength. And bonus for Force users is 1 hand is free for Force attacks (or punches).

Yes Dooku's OPPONENT's strikes took too much power to Parry as specifically mentioned. No mention Anywhere in that part of the book that Djem So's form was just too difficult to deflect and dodge.

End of you've got no argument here, and the fact that the only person you have backing you up is KMC's biggest Troll and the person with like the Fakest conversion to Star Wars fandom ever, should tell you everything you need to know.

The passage SPECIFICALLY noted meeting Djem So head to head was a particular problem WHILST FENDING OFF A SECOND ATTACKER. Once it became 1 v 1 no such clash of forms was mentioned as an issue at all.

Ease off the Gatorade.

It said it became a problem, especially when fending off a second attacker. Insinuating a problem is already present, but got worse.

Those "Anakin vs Mace" threads always reminds me of ROTS video game. Anakin takes this, and probably Anakin's raw power (even as a negative feelings) would be beyond Vaapad (just like Sidious' FL was)

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Ease off the Gatorade.

It said it became a problem, especially when fending off a second attacker. Insinuating a problem is already present, but got worse.

The CAPITALS are being used because syndicate seems to keep ignoring the same points over and over.

It was a problem with his current tactic, which was being used because he assumed Anakin was utilising a different form entirely.

The point of that passage was to note Dooku had to change tactics to combat the duos true combat forms. He did that and smacked Skywalker to the floor.

Originally posted by Ziggystardust
Ease off the Gatorade.

It said it became a problem, especially when fending off a second attacker. Insinuating a problem is already present, but got worse.

That doesn't mean, that whole Makashi is weak to Djem So. Makashi's user doesn't need to meet his enemy head to head. User of Djem So can be outmaneuvered by Makashi user's superior footwork for example.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The CAPITALS are being used because syndicate seems to keep ignoring the same points over and over.

That's his modus operandi as a debater, tbh.
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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
First of all you are retarded. Secondly Sidious blitzed 3 master before Mace could react 😬

Not to mention Vaapad is not an instant win. Mace should've gotten a significant boost off of Vaapad to beat either in 20second. It took even Yoda 40sec to make Dooku retreat.

In what way? Also Yoda taking so long to cause Dooku to withdraw doesn't show that it takes a superior opponent a good deal of time to defeat a far inferior one but rather Dooku's own parity to Yoda.

Given Vader is apparently 80% as powerful Sidious and the "parity" they've demonstrated I'd say Mace with the added power of either Maul or Dooku should be able to beat either Maul or Dooku pretty handily if he was capable of employing the superconducting loop at will. That's just me though.

Originally posted by MythLord
I lol'd when Syndicate called someone retarded.

I lol'ed after reading your post just now as I do with pretty much all your posts.

Originally posted by Syndicate
In what way? Also Yoda taking so long to cause Dooku to withdraw doesn't show that it takes a superior opponent a good deal of time to defeat a far inferior one but rather Dooku's own parity to Yoda.

>Took Yoda 40sec to make Dooku retreat
>Windu amped off of Dooku should beat him twice as fast, when amped off of Sidious he was still only Yoda level

Kill yourself.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Ah yes good call to shout out "retarded" when you can't back up your claims and have been called out by multiple posters on it.

The Passage SPECIFICALLY calls Djem So weak to mobility. Yet it doesn't call Makashi weak to anything. Go figure.

The passage SPECIFICALLY noted meeting Djem So head to head was a particular problem WHILST FENDING OFF A SECOND ATTACKER. Once it became 1 v 1 no such clash of forms was mentioned as an issue at all.

Do you know what Makashi even is btw? It's a form of precision and movement. It doesn't need to go head to head to come out superior. It deflects and dodges and redirects with fast and precise foot movements. That's WHY it's mainly used with 1 hand, because it doesn't even try to match strength with strength. And bonus for Force users is 1 hand is free for Force attacks (or punches).

Yes Dooku's OPPONENT's strikes took too much power to Parry as specifically mentioned. No mention Anywhere in that part of the book that Djem So's form was just too difficult to deflect and dodge.

End of you've got no argument here, and the fact that the only person you have backing you up is KMC's biggest Troll and the person with like the Fakest conversion to Star Wars fandom ever, should tell you everything you need to know.

Does that apply to your compatriot Zoltan as well considering he did the exact same thing just now or is he immune because he agrees with you? 😛 Also I called you retarded because you can't seem to understand the meaning of basic text. I mean I don't think Stover's novel is all that hard to comprehend despite it's flowery language.

Yes, one of Djem So's weakness is it's lack of mobility.

??? It says that Makashi has trouble meeting the kinetic power Djem So was capable of generating, especially so when facing 2 opponents. It never makes note that Makashi stops having trouble defending against the kind of kinetic energy Djem So is capable of generating once the second opponent is dispatched.

I'm generally aware of Makashi's function, yes. Your point being?

Given Anakin's strength isn't enough to even pressure Dooku before he begins employing Djem So it's obviously not just his superior physicals that are allowing him to do so well against the Count.

Quan is a friend of mine actually so I'd appreciate it if you'd kindly keep him out of this. Oh and to quit being retarded.

Given Yoda's dueling parity to Sidious who clowned Maul and Savage in lightsaber combat, whereas Dooku was ****ed without his offensive Force powers against Savage and Ventress... I'm inclined to say there is no dueling parity between Yoda and Dooku

The new canon fact file claims that they were almost equal, with Yoda having a slight edge.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The CAPITALS are being used because syndicate seems to keep ignoring the same points over and over.

It was a problem with his current tactic, which was being used because he assumed Anakin was utilising a different form entirely.

The point of that passage was to note Dooku had to change tactics to combat the duos true combat forms. He did that and smacked Skywalker to the floor.

Odd, I had the same though about you.

Nowhere does it state Dooku was having a problem because he thought he was attacking an Ataru specialist. It shows he's having a problem because Makashi simply can't meet the blows of Djem So head to head.

Dooku's knowledge on lightsaber combat does help him, yes. It doesn't change the fact that he's at an inherent disadvantage.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan

>Took Yoda 40sec to make Dooku retreat
>Windu amped off of Dooku should beat him twice as fast, when amped off of Sidious he was still only Yoda level

Kill yourself.

I have Dooku above Mace by a fair bit given Mace was incapable of even moving to defend his allies as they were cut down while Dooku was able to actually put up some kind of resistance against Yoda.

Originally posted by McP
Those "Anakin vs Mace" threads always reminds me of ROTS video game. Anakin takes this, and probably Anakin's raw power (even as a negative feelings) would be beyond Vaapad (just like Sidious' FL was)

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Given Yoda's dueling parity to Sidious who clowned Maul and Savage in lightsaber combat, whereas Dooku was ****ed without his offensive Force powers against Savage and Ventress... I'm inclined to say there is no dueling parity between Yoda and Dooku

Given Dooku's own performance against Yoda and the fact that 2 inferior opponents ( Ventress and Savage ) would not be as formidable of a threat as a single superior opponent ( Dooku ) against someone like Sidious or Yoda ( as demonstrated by Maul and Savage in their fight against Sidious ) I'm inclined to disagree.

Originally posted by Syndicate
I have Dooku above Mace by a fair bit given Mace was incapable of even moving to defend his allies as they were cut down while Dooku was able to actually put up some kind of resistance against Yoda.

Nobody gives a shit where you put Dooku and Mace.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Nobody gives a shit where you put Dooku and Mace.

Apparently you do since you're claiming my statement wouldn't be supported by opinions I'd expressed prior. Dumbass.

It's not. You are talking shit.

Btw, Yoda pushed Dooku's shit in even in Y: DR, where Yoda was weakened and Dooku was amped.