Originally posted by quanchi112
You said I won a battlezone with my evidence the judges decided against. So you disagree. Also you haven't done one and you're like that ******* on the couch judging the professional athletes while never doing anything yourself. Pitiful.
You have a sub 500 record...
You are typically the loser in your battlezones...
That's all there is to it...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The way I see it, the senario I created in the OP is the only way to make the fight remotely fair...If I had adhered to the minimal standard conditions present in a forum fight: 100 yards starting distance, no PIS, featureless environment, [b]standard gear only
, then this becomes a spite thread against WS as Winter Soldier wouldnt have anyway to fight back...So I gave Bucky a weapon identical to Deadshots to make it more fair...
And Bucky has never faced a being as superhumanly accurate as Deadshot...
From 100 yards, there is no way Bucky would be able to block all the shots with his arm (his arm isnt a big round shield like Captain America's)...
Deadshot could fire 3 round bursts to 4 seperate body parts on Bucky's body (with 100% accuracy) and there is no way in hell Bucky is blocking tibia/fibula/ankle shots with his arm...
In addition to this, Bucky has missed MANY shots during his movies; Deadshot has literally only missed once (and it was on purpose)...
Even with me making this fight more fair to Bucky, Deadshot still has a significant advantage here... [/B]
Indisputable!
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Originally posted by Robtard
He fired 4-5 shots were he expected Fury to be standing, at least one hit, I'd have to rewatch. Wasn't saying it's not impressive, just that Deadshot could do better in the same scenario giving his skills. i.e. DS only would have needed 1 shot and it would have been lethal. When you watch SS, you'll understand.
He fired 3 shots. All shots landed center mass (you hear an impact "thud" following every shot w/c makes it sound there were 6 shots but there were only 3). As indicated by the bullet holes at 1:19 and Fury's wounds w/c are clear as day if you pause at 1:23. This was done with him not having any LOS on Fury.
Like I said, wrong scene to use to downplay WS's shooting skills, this was actually pretty badass.
Also, sorry for the late reply. Have been very very busy recently.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Come on Big Nib, that is a point you can't win. I could literally cite over a 1000 movies where somebody very skilled takes aim at a main character and miss as he's (running away, jumping away, jumping behind something etc etc) These aren't even enhanced people. What you say WS literally happens in almost every action movie ever made. It wasn't impressive.
WS was shot at at point blank with a pair of automatic pistols where Falcon (as evidenced in the movie) has shown to have impressive skill-in-flight with. He didn't jump away from the shots (w/c is my point) he dodged them as the bullets were raining around them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNKFukHMhHI
Look at 2:38, the bullets were zipping all around him, in fact, if you look closely, one bullet deflected off his metal arm. That is literally what dodging is (w/c refutes your comment of "he simply jumped out of the way"😉.
And no, ppl have dodged bullets before IRL, they don't have to do it Neo style.
Also, like I said, this point of logic is irrelevant. There will be little/no time for either characters to dodge each other's shots. Fastest draw wins.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'm curious, could you list all these times that WS missed his shots? I feel like you're greatly exaggerating.
I won't do your homework for you, but go to You tube and watch the entire freeway battle scene...
Winter Soldier misses ALOT of shots in this sequence alone (and you want me to post all his misses!?? This sequence alone proves my case for the enormous gap in accuracy between WS and Deadshot)...
He misses far more than he hits; when looking at the totality of his hits vs misses, Winter Soldiers aim is terrible compared to Deadshots...
Winter Soldier has zero margin for error in a shoot out against Deadshot and unfortunately for Winter Soldier, he has alot of misses on his movie resume...
Deadshot has exactly one miss (out of hundreds of rounds) and it was on purpose...
Big advantage Deadshot...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Based on on-screen feats, Deadshot could bounce a bullet off of Buckys arm and kill him...How would Bucky defend against that?
I guess he'd magically know what Deadshot was attempting and block in such a manner that Deadshot couldnt achieve his goal...eh?
LoL...
Bucky has blocked and dodged automatic gunfire at close range, and has evaded Tony's repulsor blasts. Dodging gunfire from 100 yards would be no problem.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Bucky has blocked and dodged automatic gunfire at close range, and has evaded Tony's repulsor blasts. Dodging gunfire from 100 yards would be no problem.
Arachnid1 debunked this exact same argument several pages back...
Clearly you aren't reading what's being wrote here...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I won't do your homework for you, but go to You tube and watch the entire freeway battle scene...Winter Soldier misses ALOT of shots in this sequence alone (and you want me to post all his misses!?? This sequence alone proves my case for the enormous gap in accuracy between WS and Deadshot)...
He misses far more than he hits; when looking at the totality of his hits vs misses, Winter Soldiers aim is terrible compared to Deadshots...
Winter Soldier has zero margin for error in a shoot out against Deadshot and unfortunately for Winter Soldier, he has alot of misses on his movie resume...
Deadshot has exactly one miss (out of hundreds of rounds) and it was on purpose...
Big advantage Deadshot...
100% fact...
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Arachnid1 debunked this exact same argument several pages back...Clearly you aren't reading what's being wrote here...
Nobody debunked shit. Y'all are just burying your heads in the sand while trying to ignore what's right in front of your faces. It's basically the equivalent of stuffing your fingers in your ears and screaming.
Bucky got shot at, he dodged the shots. Therefore, he dodged bullets. It's not particle physics.
Debunk that, dweeb.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Nobody debunked shit. Y'all are just burying your heads in the sand while trying to ignore what's right in front of your faces. It's basically the equivalent of stuffing your fingers in your ears and screaming.Bucky got shot at, he dodged the shots. Therefore, he dodged bullets. It's not particle physics.
Debunk that, dweeb.
Bah, you're just an idiotic fool the same ilk as quanchi...
So, Winter Soldier is holding a M16 in his hands, standing 100 yards away from another guy with a M16 and as soon as the fight starts, Bucky is going to block and dodge instead of shooting back?
Get the f**k out of here with that level of foolishness...
You're a retarded f**k up if you cant comprehend stupidity present in your post...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Bah, you're just an idiotic fool the same ilk as quanchi...So, Winter Soldier is holding a M16 in his hands, standing 100 yards away from another guy with a M16 and as soon as the fight starts, Bucky is going to block and dodge instead of shooting back?
Get the f**k out of here with that level of foolishness...
You're a retarded f**k up if you cant comprehend stupidity present in your post...
No, he's going to block and dodge instead of getting shot, dingus.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Nobody debunked shit. Y'all are just burying your heads in the sand while trying to ignore what's right in front of your faces. It's basically the equivalent of stuffing your fingers in your ears and screaming.Bucky got shot at, he dodged the shots. Therefore, he dodged bullets. It's not particle physics.
Debunk that, dweeb.
WS best option is to try and incapacitate DS in a gunfight or avoid his line of sight and get close. Even with those two options if Lawton gets a beat on him first and shoots then Bucky's dead.
Originally posted by NibedicusRobtard got called the **** out. He just got served. Take it, Robbie.
He fired 3 shots. All shots landed center mass (you hear an impact "thud" following every shot w/c makes it sound there were 6 shots but there were only 3). As indicated by the bullet holes at 1:19 and Fury's wounds w/c are clear as day if you pause at 1:23. This was done with him not having any LOS on Fury.Like I said, wrong scene to use to downplay WS's shooting skills, this was actually pretty badass.
Also, sorry for the late reply. Have been very very busy recently.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderEvidence >> votes.
The available data has yeilded Deadshot a 12-5 advantage...Read em and weep!
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurderBased on ?
Bullsh!t...You are the most biased unobjective poster on this entire forum...
Hail Marvel and Marvel characters; woe to DC and DC characters...right?
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Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYou haven't done any and agree I won one in which the judges decided against me. It's all subjective but man up and take me on, *****. I know you are gutless and won't ever do so but prove me wrong.
You have a sub 500 record...You are typically the loser in your battlezones...
That's all there is to it...
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