Deadshot vs Winter Soldier...

Started by TheLordofMurder30 pages
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
No, he's going to block and dodge instead of getting shot, dingus.

LoL!!!

This tells me all I need to know about your intelligence level...

So according to you, Bucky will block and dodge opposed to shooting out of the gate...

😂

Bucky dies quickly and horribly if he fights the way you want him to...

Bucky wins based off the evidence and the tendencies of the characters.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Another thing to consider, Bucky is considerably faster than Smithshot. Wtf happens when Bucky draws first? Unlike Bucky, DS has no relevant reaction feats.

Two things...

1) Even if Bucky draws 1st, Deadshot still has enough time to get off a three round burst of his own given the starting distance...

2) Bucky's accuracy (when looking at the totality of his shots fired vs his total hits) is very poor; watch the highway scene...Bucky misses a ton of shots (he misses far more than he hits); Deadshot (on the other hand) never misses unless he wants to...

So even if Bucky draws 1st, theres enough evidence to support the belief that he wont hit his target anyway...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Evidence >> votes.

Based on ?

The votes are based off of the evidence...

The evidence has spoken...

12-5...

Deadshot wins...

🙂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The votes are based off of the evidence...

The evidence has spoken...

12-5...

Deadshot wins...

🙂

The votes are based off bias but the evidence says WS wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bucky wins based off the evidence and the tendencies of the characters.

Based on the evidence and the tendencies of the characters, Bucky dies and you end up wearing a black dress to express your grief...

🙂

Originally posted by quanchi112
The votes are based off bias but the evidence says WS wins.

The votes are based on the empirical data supplied by the movie...

12-5...

Deadshot kills Bucky dead...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Two things...

1) Even if Bucky draws 1st, Deadshot still has enough time to get off a three round burst of his own given the starting distance...

2) Bucky's accuracy (when looking at the totality of his shots fired vs his total hits) is very poor; watch the highway scene...Bucky misses a ton of shots (he misses far more than he hits); Deadshot (on the other hand) [b]never misses unless he wants to...

So even if Bucky draws 1st, theres enough evidence to support the belief that he wont hit his target anyway... [/B]

👆

Truth personified...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Such as ?

Such as Bucky having a very poor aim vs Deadshot having perfect aim for starters...

Look at all of Buckys misses here: 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8VGH5xV4Y

Bucky's aim is horrifically bad compared to Deadshots...

Bucky has zero room for error here...

Deadshot wins...

🙂

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Two things...

1) Even if Bucky draws 1st, Deadshot still has enough time to get off a three round burst of his own given the starting distance...

2) Bucky's accuracy (when looking at the totality of his shots fired vs his total hits) is very poor; watch the highway scene...Bucky misses a ton of shots (he misses far more than he hits); Deadshot (on the other hand) [b]never misses unless he wants to...

So even if Bucky draws 1st, theres enough evidence to support the belief that he wont hit his target anyway... [/B]

What?? Deadshot is a regular guy, if Bucky draws on him first, he's dead. There's been nothing to suggest he can dodge a bullet, never mind draw his weapon and fire in the span of time it takes for a bullet to travel a hundred yards.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Bucky blocked gunfire from enemies that were in his immediate position. In order to do that here he'd have to first know where Deadshot is and actually block all the rounds from the first burst. Given Dedshot's position in this scenario and that Deadshot won't miss when he's fired a shot, blocking/dodging shots simply isn't a very good route.

WS best option is to try and incapacitate DS in a gunfight or avoid his line of sight and get close. Even with those two options if Lawton gets a beat on him first and shoots then Bucky's dead.

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Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
What?? Deadshot is a regular guy, if Bucky draws on him first, he's dead. There's been nothing to suggest he can dodge a bullet, never mind draw his weapon and fire in the span of time it takes for a bullet to travel a hundred yards.

You do know that Bucky misses far more shots than he hits...dont you?

Did you even bother clicking the link to the freeway scene I posted?

LoL...

Bucky has missed many, many, shots in his movie career...

As a result, there is absolutely no reason to believe that his aim will be perfect versus Deadshot...

Deadshots aim WILL be perfect vs Bucky however...

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
What?? Deadshot is a regular guy, if Bucky draws on him first, he's dead. There's been nothing to suggest he can dodge a bullet, never mind draw his weapon and fire in the span of time it takes for a bullet to travel a hundred yards.

Here, I'll make it easy for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8VGH5xV4Y

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I won't do your homework for you, but go to You tube and watch the entire freeway battle scene...

Winter Soldier misses ALOT of shots in this sequence alone (and you want me to post all his misses!?? This sequence alone proves my case for the enormous gap in accuracy between WS and Deadshot)...

He misses far more than he hits; when looking at the totality of his hits vs misses, Winter Soldiers aim is terrible compared to Deadshots...

Winter Soldier has zero margin for error in a shoot out against Deadshot and unfortunately for Winter Soldier, he has alot of misses on his movie resume...

Deadshot has exactly one miss (out of hundreds of rounds) and it was on purpose...

Big advantage Deadshot...

LoM, basic debating rules would dictate that if you make a declaration (such as stating that "WS misses many many times"😉, onus actually falls on you to prove your assertion. I mean, you don't have to do it. But that only means Froth doesn't have to believe you.

Essentially, do the work if you make assertions. List down the times WS has missed so we can put that part the debate to rest.

Not saying you're wrong, tho, but would also like to see what is needed for you to categorize something as "many many times".

Originally posted by Nibedicus
LoM, basic debating rules would dictate that if you make a declaration (such as stating that "WS misses many many times"😉, onus actually falls on you to prove your assertion. I mean, you don't have to do it. But that only means Froth doesn't have to believe you.

Essentially, do the work if you make assertions. List down the times WS has missed so we can put that part the debate to rest.

Not saying you're wrong, tho, but would also like to see what is needed for you to categorize something as "many many times".

I am making the declarartion that he does his own homework as he is in this thread debating yet he hasnt even seen Suicide Squad yet (as of his last post in this thread he hadnt at any rate)...

If Froth has seen all of Winter Soldiers showings, then he'd know what myself and others in this very thread have stated: that Winter Soldier misses many more shots than he hits...

If Froth hasnt seen all of his showings, then he needs to watch the movies instead of debating in this thread...

With all of that said, Winter Soldier has missed lots of shots; far more than he hits...

No, I'm not going to do the leg work and post all of his aiming woes, but I will give a taste of what he has to offer...

The following is a clear example of his extreme inferiority to Deadshot when it comes to hitting his desired target:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8VGH5xV4Y

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Based on the evidence and the tendencies of the characters, Bucky dies and you end up wearing a black dress to express your grief...

🙂

Such as what evidence ?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
The votes are based on the empirical data supplied by the movie...

12-5...

Deadshot kills Bucky dead...

In a perfect world but we both know that isn't the case here. Bucky has superior feats, bullet deflecting feats, and quicker reaction. He wins.

Has Bucky deflected a bullet fired by someone of Deadshot's skills?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Has Bucky deflected a bullet fired by someone of Deadshot's skills?

Do you really want to use that type of logic?

Ok, Has Deadshot ever hit someone of Bucky's stats or skills?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Such as Bucky having a very poor aim vs Deadshot having perfect aim for starters...

Look at all of Buckys misses here: 🙂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o8VGH5xV4Y

Bucky's aim is horrifically bad compared to Deadshots...

Bucky has zero room for error here...

Deadshot wins...

🙂

WS hits three accurate shots against three superhumanly skilled opponents. All in the midst of combat. Secondly, when he's atop the car he can't see any of them and is essentially blind to the target. She also misses him shooting under the same circumstances. When does Deadshot hit someone while closing his eyes ? This isn't relevant here and Bucky's opponents are all superior to Deadshots. Deadshot can see batman but not once does he hit the exposed area. He's kind of stupid tbh.

WS wins. Thanks for providing evidence to show how superior WS is to DS.